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sx_turbo said:
The plan would be the electric car to be the run around for the missus, and then the family car for me to get to and from work (I do 40 miles a day so makes sense for me to take the ice car as it will get a proper heat cycle and run) and be the one we use to go on holiday, days out etc.

Personally for me electric cars for long journeys would provide me with too much stress, even if they say they can now do 400 miles to a charge, imo the charging infrastructure isn't there, and with young family sitting at a charging station for an hour or so I imagine to be a pain.

I know lots of people do seem to manage long journeys, the cheap end of the ev market all seems to have moon mileages, so they absolutely can work, I'm just not sure it's for me at the moment.

As a town run about though, absolutely ideal.
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I think long journeys in a EV is a bit like riding a bike. Seems impossible until you do it, then it's oh yeah I get it.

Just one one point, imagine you've a 80kw battery. Its a 100Kwh charger. You couldn't be there for an hour. It's obviously not that simplistic. But you get the idea.
 
sx_turbo said:
The plan would be the electric car to be the run around for the missus, and then the family car for me to get to and from work (I do 40 miles a day so makes sense for me to take the ice car as it will get a proper heat cycle and run) and be the one we use to go on holiday, days out etc.

Personally for me electric cars for long journeys would provide me with too much stress, even if they say they can now do 400 miles to a charge, imo the charging infrastructure isn't there, and with young family sitting at a charging station for an hour or so I imagine to be a pain.

I know lots of people do seem to manage long journeys, the cheap end of the ev market all seems to have moon mileages, so they absolutely can work, I'm just not sure it's for me at the moment.

As a town run about though, absolutely ideal.
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The stress is largely in your own head. Buy the right vehicle and it’s no bother at all. The majority of motorway service stations have loads of chargers and so loads of locations just off the motorway.

Why do you need to stay for an hour? Many cars are good to go with a quick 15 min top up. By the time you’ve been for a quick pee and got back to the car, it’s added 100 miles. You’d have already driven 200 to get there.

I’ve taken my old car into Europe a few times and that only had a 220 mile real world range. It’s also been up to Scotland and back if you prefer to keep things domestic.

I’ve towed a caravan 320 miles down to Devon (and back) behind my current car. Towing deletes 40% to 50% of your range depending on conditions. I probably wouldn’t recommend going out to buy a caravan but it’s not actually that different to doing the same journey in a car like a e2008 with its relatively small battery.
 
OspreyO said:
I think long journeys in a EV is a bit like riding a bike. Seems impossible until you do it, then it's oh yeah I get it.

Just one one point, imagine you've a 80kw battery. Its a 100Kwh charger. You couldn't be there for an hour. It's obviously not that simplistic. But you get the idea.
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You probably will be there for an hour as a 100kW charger won’t be giving 100kW for the whole charge of the 80kWh battery.

Unless you on are about a charger with a built in 100kWh battery and a 80kW motor of course.
 
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sx_turbo said:
The plan would be the electric car to be the run around for the missus, and then the family car for me to get to and from work (I do 40 miles a day so makes sense for me to take the ice car as it will get a proper heat cycle and run) and be the one we use to go on holiday, days out etc.

Personally for me electric cars for long journeys would provide me with too much stress, even if they say they can now do 400 miles to a charge, imo the charging infrastructure isn't there, and with young family sitting at a charging station for an hour or so I imagine to be a pain.

I know lots of people do seem to manage long journeys, the cheap end of the ev market all seems to have moon mileages, so they absolutely can work, I'm just not sure it's for me at the moment.

As a town run about though, absolutely ideal.
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I may have missed it but, do you actually own an ev atm?
I ask as in your opinion the infrastructure isn't there, how would you know if you don't actually own an ev?

Like i said, i may have missed where you said you do/don't own an ev.
 
I passed a Xpeng G6 on the way home today, had trade plates on it looked pretty nice to be honest. Didn’t think they where available here until the end of Q2?
 
Simon said:
You probably will be there for an hour as a 100kW charger won’t be giving 100kW for the whole charge of the 80kWh battery.

Unless you on are about a charger with a built in 100kWh battery and a 80kW motor of course.
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Did you ever write VCR instructions. Kinda missing the point of simplifying things for the purpose of an example.
 
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OspreyO said:
Did you ever write VCR instructions. Kinda missing the point of simplifying things for the purpose of an example.
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You got the units wrong noob. And it’s going to deramp as it fills up. The last 20 % takes much longer so it certainly will take longer than an hour. Unlike rewinding a vcr. It’s not linear. Nor is it anything like riding a bike.

What’s the next strawman you come back with ?

you call me out for dinosaurs on a EV comparison, but you have used the analogy of riding a bike for explaining how charging a EV works. Perplexing. I guess riding a bike might be faster in some occasions
 
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Simon said:
You got the units wrong noob. And it’s going to deramp as it fills up. The last 20 % takes much longer so it certainly will take longer than an hour. Unlike rewinding a vcr. It’s not linear. Nor is it anything like riding a bike.

What’s the next strawman you come back with ?

you call me out for dinosaurs on a EV comparison, but you have used the analogy of riding a bike for explaining how charging a EV works. Perplexing. I guess riding a bike might be faster in some occasions
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Nope it's exactly like riding a bicycle.

Yes stopping for an hour is going to take "much longer" than an hour. That's really useful.
 
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Imagine using that example that all it serves to prove is that he’s never charged an EV on a DC unit.

Dunning-Kruger exhibit A m’Lord
 
If you do a trip fairly regularly, you'll learn to optimise charging time, and look out for the faster chargers if your car supports it. I dont spend any more than 20 mins at a charger, you basically get to 70 or 80% and 0121 do one.
 
OspreyO said:
Can you let us know when "tongue in cheek" means what is meant to mean or your going to take it literally because you seem to flip flop on that from one post to the next.

I'm not sure the few thousand years difference between plants or Barney really makes any difference to driving 100 miles to a charger argument.
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Was just about recycling. You can’t get it into your head that it’s a very slow carbon cycle. He was talking about batteries not charging. The only one who flip flops here is you. Just hopping in to troll.
 
Tinders said:
If you do a trip fairly regularly, you'll learn to optimise charging time, and look out for the faster chargers if your car supports it. I dont spend any more than 20 mins at a charger, you basically get to 70 or 80% and 0121 do one.
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Exactly this. But I rode a bike once so I charge to 100% as it couldn’t take an hour. (Something like that anyway ).

It amazes what tripe people come in to argue about when in reality we are mostly EV drivers in here. But if people are gonna preach about charging they need to know there kW from kWh

FWIW I avoid public chargers like the plague. Massive waste of time and would rather get there faster by just sitting at the exact speed to arrive on 1% at my destination. I don’t need gom,abrp or any of that stuff. Just go by experience and understanding of how energy works ( you lose 5mins stopping to charge without even getting an electron )
 
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Simon said:
Exactly this. But I rode a bike once so I charge to 100% as it couldn’t take an hour. (Something like that anyway ).

It amazes what tripe people come in to argue about when in reality we are mostly EV drivers in here. But if people are gonna preach about charging they need to know there kW from kWh

FWIW I avoid public chargers like the plague. Massive waste of time and would rather get there faster by just sitting at the exact speed to arrive on 1% at my destination. I don’t need gom,abrp or any of that stuff. Just go by experience and understanding of how energy works ( you lose 5mins stopping to charge without even getting an electron )
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I can see why you don't use public chargers if charging for an hour takes you hours. Or why you think going slower is faster, then ignore an app or apps that work all that out in an instant.
 
Simon said:
Was just about recycling. You can’t get it into your head that it’s a very slow carbon cycle. He was talking about batteries not charging. The only one who flip flops here is you. Just hopping in to troll.
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Something about it was very slow aright.
 
m4rmite said:
I may have missed it but, do you actually own an ev atm?
I ask as in your opinion the infrastructure isn't there, how would you know if you don't actually own an ev?

Like i said, i may have missed where you said you do/don't own an ev.
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No I don't, which if you read what I had written properly you would know that I do not.

However I've come to that opinion based on available information such as this

https://www.statista.com/topics/119...tructure-in-the-united-kingdom/#topicOverview

That said if you read what I've written (which you evidently havnt) I've also stated that there are lots of ev's with high mileage for sale, which by itself (in the way I've written it) implies that I may well be wrong.

When looking to purchase new technology it is expected that one would do their own research and decide if it meets their needs or not.

I'm looking at buying one for a specific use case I think one would be suitable for.

I'm happy to be told I'm wrong, but in a respectful manor without condescending attitude
 
Tinders said:
If you do a trip fairly regularly, you'll learn to optimise charging time, and look out for the faster chargers if your car supports it. I dont spend any more than 20 mins at a charger, you basically get to 70 or 80% and 0121 do one.
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Can't be many EV drivers who sit for hours on a 100kw charger.
 
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