I could understand not getting a 'proper' charger if it was the other way around and we were transitioning from EV to ICE and keeping the car only a few more years, but it is the other way and all of the future cars are more than likely to be BEV's - where is the negative in getting something more capable, other than a cost that will end up being an appliance cost like any other convenience device.
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realistically, they don't buy an ev at the moment. they can still use petrol cars for a long time. eventually hydrogen will fill the gap in the market.
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I seriously doubt it. The economics just don't make sense. To the point that the existing hydrogen filling stations are actually being closed.
Shell UK closes down its hydrogen refuelling stations and decommissions them
Shell UK has closed down its three hydrogen refuelling stations for cars and vans and said it is now turning its attention to fuelling larger vehicles.
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Use of public chargers both free and paid when out and about. The new flats on my estate have 5 EVs parked and all must use public chargers. Its entirely possible to daily use an EV without your own charge point.
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what's not flexible about this?
Its the weird journeys that catch me out/ become an issue. Like driving to Penzance, you know you are stopping along the way whether it is an EV or an ICE. A day trip to the Royal International Air Tattoo? Not a chance. Ya know?
Because it is a grand that for a lot of folks EV usage means they gain nothing. Maybe if sparks weren't extorting I'd get one.
Also the warranty is garbage. Even my washing machine which does way more and works much harder has a longer warranty.
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Hydrogen will not take any place in personal public transport (ie cars).
all the surplus electricty from windpower has to go somewhere - hydrogen is what shell are betting on in the Netherlands, initially for commercial use;
what are formula ones plans ? it's not going to become the pinup for battery cars, but rather than bio fuel would hydrogen(+buffer battery) give the range
what are formula ones plans ? it's not going to become the pinup for battery cars, but rather than bio fuel would hydrogen(+buffer battery) give the range
Yup, its into car batteries but first of all it will be exported to places that are not as windy. We are not saying that renewables will not be used to make hydrogen, what we are saying this that hydrogen will not be used in cars. There are so many other better uses for green hydrogen, first of all is getting rid of brown/blue/<insert any other colour than green here> hydrogen from the market. That alone will need copious amount of surplus green energy that simply isn't produced at the moment and that is before taking the fossil fuel based generation out of the grid mix.
Formula One has no analogue with road cars at all, even the fuel they use is very different. The 2035 ban does not cover Formula One either...
The shell place was old and too much work to upgrade to the latest requirements. Would read into it too much.This.
I seriously doubt it. The economics just don't make sense. To the point that the existing hydrogen filling stations are actually being closed.
Shell UK closes down its hydrogen refuelling stations and decommissions them
Shell UK has closed down its three hydrogen refuelling stations for cars and vans and said it is now turning its attention to fuelling larger vehicles.
Hydrogen is a great way to ‘burn’ electrons
Yep, I didn't say hydrogen wouldn't have uses 
just that it won't have use in FCEVs - they're half as efficient as BEVs in "well-to-wheel" terms. We need to be reducing energy demand as well as making energy generation cleaner.
A balance of hydrogen generation from excess renewable energy will be used in the future, with stored gases used for some generation to fill in gaps between nuclear and renewables.
just that it won't have use in FCEVs - they're half as efficient as BEVs in "well-to-wheel" terms. We need to be reducing energy demand as well as making energy generation cleaner.A balance of hydrogen generation from excess renewable energy will be used in the future, with stored gases used for some generation to fill in gaps between nuclear and renewables.
Hydrogen vehicle can be HICE too.Hydrogen has its uses but it’s about half as efficient as BEV
Also your hydrogen car is still electric
Making it about 30% as efficient as BEV
Not sure that’s gonna be the way forward, but yes they are possible
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Anyone have experience with an MG ev4 or ev5? Looking at both (MG ev5 preferred choice).
If you PLAN the day out its absolutely fine. Been there, done that.
There is a 50kW shell recharge in Cirencester just off the A417
Or book a table at one of the restaurants at cotswold waterpark and the car can sit on charge outside for a couple of hours while you eat. Simples.
The MG4 is a much newer model but both are great value for money. Think the 5 has quite a slow charge speed at rapid chargers but that’s only a problem if you’re charging away from home a lot
5's current rapid (80s was it) charge rate, is meant to be down to need to tune for lifecycle of LFP batteries, a phase tesla went through too, so should be software improved.
Shell even article today saying how shell diverting their investments
Shell even article today saying how shell diverting their investments
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The MG4 is the better car, it’s just whether the form factor works for you or not.
One downside of the MG5, well around here anyway is that it’s the sort of car private hire places would buy to use as taxi.