**EVO: Tyre Test 2007**

[TW]Fox;10092351 said:
There are different versions.

Eagle F1 GS-D2 - the original versions, later only available for small cars.
Eagle F1 GS-D3 - the outgoing version
Eagle F1 Assymetric - the new version, as tested in this months Evo.
ta, will take a look :)
 
HI there

Is it not true though that different cars work better with different tyres? What I mean is what gives the best result on a FWD hatch might not necessarily be the best for a 4WD or RWD car?

Then higher horsepower cars might be suited to different tyres again as may heavier cars too?

If F1 eagles have been so good for so many years, then how comes BMW, Ferrari and some of the really powerful Saloons, Supercars and Sport cars are not using them.
 
I'd also like to know whether they have done anything to the sidewall since the GSD-3 - to be honest, I never had any issues with it.

According to the blurb I read when researching them, they have an asymmetric sidewall which is supposed to aid in cornering by increasing the contact patch :confused:
 
I put GS3D's on my wifes Golf GTi before she sold it, and they were as the F1's had always been in my experience, a great tyre in the wet and head and shoulders ahead of the Bridgestone's the car came with. However, they lasted about 5,000 miles on the front, where the Bridgestones lasted about 10,000, which I thought was shocking.

:eek:

Were you doin wheelspins at every junction.

My f1s have lasted around 10k at the rear, still have 4mm tread left tho.
 
Cars such as the Ford GT were supplied OEM with Goodyear Eagle tyres. Whether a car is fitted with them from the factory is as much about industry politics and bulk purchasing deals as it is about the suitability of the tyre.

My 530i, for example, was supplied brand new from the factory with Dunlop SP Sport 2000E tyres. They were awful. My Dads 530d was supplied brand new with Continental EcoContact. They were even worse.
 
[TW]Fox;10092452 said:
Cars such as the Ford GT were supplied OEM with Goodyear Eagle tyres. Whether a car is fitted with them from the factory is as much about industry politics and bulk purchasing deals as it is about the suitability of the tyre.

My 530i, for example, was supplied brand new from the factory with Dunlop SP Sport 2000E tyres. They were awful. My Dads 530d was supplied brand new with Continental EcoContact. They were even worse.


HI there

The Corvettes and Ford GT have the Goodyear Supercar Tyre which I believe is a different tyre, but could be wrong. :)
 
HI there

The Corvettes and Ford GT have the Goodyear Supercar Tyre which I believe is a different tyre, but could be wrong. :)

This is correct. However, in the same way, the tyres you will find OEM on your Ferrari 512 or your Lambo are, although the same in name, not quite the same as the tyres you'd fit to an M3
 
HI there

Is it not true though that different cars work better with different tyres? What I mean is what gives the best result on a FWD hatch might not necessarily be the best for a 4WD or RWD car?

Then higher horsepower cars might be suited to different tyres again as may heavier cars too?

If F1 eagles have been so good for so many years, then how comes BMW, Ferrari and some of the really powerful Saloons, Supercars and Sport cars are not using them.

Thats my view on the situation, for example the tyre of choice on my mazda is GSD3's, everything else just makes the backend too playfull in the wet, its because its a light car, other cars will be better on PS2 sports and the such.
 
1st - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric

Woop glad I've got them on all 4 corners :D
Also they are very durable ive done 10,000 miles on my rear ones and they are now down to 5mm and 3500 miles on my front ones and they are still at 7mm
 
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[TW]Fox;10092325 said:
Surely 'long lasting compounds' are not really suited towards performance cars?

Why buy a great handling car and handicap it with 'long lasting' tyres?

I don't know why manufacturers put them on cars, I know they are on a lot of Audi S/RS cars and BMW M cars from the factory for example. I also don't understand why very few hot hatches/performance cars come from the factory with F1s when they generally top most tyre tests overall. I suspect it comes down to the discounts they get on bulk buying the tyres.

However I was stating was that they go a long way to justify there price difference as they last longer than the cheaper rivals. This personally doesn't bother me within reason which is why I picked the F1s however people who spend a lot of time on the motorway etc who won't be testing the tyres to the limits on a cost/wear/performace ratio they may be the better tyre.
 
If you spend a lot of time on the Motorway you can get at least 15k out of F1's. Granted, this may still not be enough for some.
 
I put GS3D's on my wifes Golf GTi before she sold it, and they were as the F1's had always been in my experience, a great tyre in the wet and head and shoulders ahead of the Bridgestone's the car came with. However, they lasted about 5,000 miles on the front, where the Bridgestones lasted about 10,000, which I thought was shocking.



Depends on the car and the way you drive.

The last 3 sets of tyres i have had

Nangkang (Dealer put them on when i bought the car) 5,000
Bridgestone RE040 (the worst tyre by far , no grip in the cold) 4,500
Barium (sp) made by Continental 6,000


All of those are front tyres on a Pug 307 XSI 2.0L with ESP and traction control on all the time.
 
Would be interesting to see how EVO rate a car with loads of different tyres.

The crux being that the car has a set of tyres that were specially developed for it. It obvious Goodyear but put grip ahead of wear. And of course brand new tyres will peform differently to worn ones.

Goodyears may be great new but then after 2000miles drop off and are actually worse than other longer lasting tyres. Not saying this is the case, but it is certainly something worth keeping in mind. Personally I wouldn't use them on mine after experiencing T1Rs, far too soft sidewalls for performance Hondas.
 
Would be interesting to see how EVO rate a car with loads of different tyres.

The crux being that the car has a set of tyres that were specially developed for it. It obvious Goodyear but put grip ahead of wear. And of course brand new tyres will peform differently to worn ones.

Goodyears may be great new but then after 2000miles drop off and are actually worse than other longer lasting tyres. Not saying this is the case, but it is certainly something worth keeping in mind. Personally I wouldn't use them on mine after experiencing T1Rs, far too soft sidewalls for performance Hondas.

I was also wondering if this was the case.
 
Hmmm interesting review, the last set of tyres on the ST3 were GSD-3's and tbh they were nowhere near as good as the conti sport contact 2's.a lot of the guys on the st forumss have similar findings.

The conti's were good for 14k ish, but after 9k their performance really dropped off, the goodyears just kept lighting up the ESP at every opportunity,very annoying tbh.

Edit, wohoo posting on Tinders' machine!
 
Personally I wouldn't use them on mine after experiencing T1Rs

You wouldn't use Goodyears new F1 (with stiffer sidewalls) becuase you once tried some Toyos?

I can see where you are coming from. Personally, I wouldn't touch a Honda, becuase I once drove a Nissan.
 
[TW]Fox;10093059 said:
You wouldn't use Goodyears new F1 (with stiffer sidewalls) becuase you once tried some Toyos?

I can see where you are coming from. Personally, I wouldn't touch a Honda, becuase I once drove a Nissan.

How tiresome.

Arent the F1s reputed to have soft sidewalls? If that was the case, and he has tried tyres that also have soft sidewalls would he not be able to have made at least some comparison?

Its sorta like saying RWD is better than FWD without you having driven every single FWD and RWD ever made.
 
If F1 eagles have been so good for so many years, then how comes BMW, Ferrari and some of the really powerful Saloons, Supercars and Sport cars are not using them.

They were fitted as standard to most TVRs and they are pretty hardcore cars. The only other car I know of that has them from the factory was the Audi Q7.
 
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