Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%

  • Total voters
    1,097
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Soldato
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No they're not, wise up!
Quite right.
None of that old ****e!
Move along, very little to see here, which is the problem, the SF/DUP coalition has done nothing for Northern Ireland for the past 10 years, it's unlikely to manage much in the next five.
People need to wise up and look around, start thinking of policies which make our local healthcare better, better education, rather than what colour of flag I can fly on which day.
 
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It's the only opportunity they have to influence Brexit negotiations, to dismiss the opportunity out of hand does significant damage to the soft brexit/repeat referendum cause.

find some more straws to clutch, cons are between a rock and a hard place, if they try to drive a hard brexit they will fail, to simply run the UK they are having to rely on the support of terrorists. Neither Libs nor SNP would be doing any of us a service by trying to prop that witch up
 
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They were not a military wing of the DUP though, but even so, what terrorist acts did they commit?

It's a bizarre situation where we declare our own loyalists to be terrorists though. The loyalists primarily existed to resist the IRA, the group which bombed and killed civilians. Not saying the loyalists didn't do evil things, but they were on our side.


Ulster Resistance were considered to be a Loyalist Paramilitary group, and as for Loyalist groups existing to "resist the ira", the official IRA weren't even doing anything in the lead-up to the troubles it was loyalist paranoia about the 50th anniversary of the Easter rising and some kind of "upsurge" in IRA activity was about to happen, consequently Loyalists caused the first casualties of the troubles, leading to the formation of the Provisional IRA.
 
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UVF was responsible for at least 500 murders.
Not wishing to derail, but the DUPs newest MP is

Emma Pengelly is the daughter of the loyalist activist Noel Little. He was absent from her life between the ages of nine and eleven following an arrest for arms trafficking.
Pengelly is married to Richard Pengelly, who is the Permanent Secretary at the Department of Health

They're all lovely people.
We're in a new era, there may be a shadow of the past overhanging us, but still, need to look forward, not back at 2000 year old texts.
 
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UVF have nothing to do with the DUP, you're mistaking them for the UDA. The UVF have their own political mouthpiece, the PUP.

All the same mess, i'd lump any separatists in with Sinn Fein aswell if i knew more.

No point in making it complex when the goal is ultimately one thing for both sides.
 
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All the same mess, i'd lump any separatists in with Sinn Fein aswell if i knew more.

No point in making it complex when the goal is ultimately one thing for both sides.

The last time the English tried to make things "less complex" in Northern Ireland you ended up picking pieces of Canary Wharf out of your hair ;)
 

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They were not a military wing of the DUP though, but even so, what terrorist acts did they commit?

It's a bizarre situation where we declare our own loyalists to be terrorists though. The loyalists primarily existed to resist the IRA, the group which bombed and killed civilians. Not saying the loyalists didn't do evil things, but they were on our side.
Not to derail this into a history lesson, but the first sectarian murders, bombings and massacre of the Troubles were committed by loyalist paramilitaries. They existed to violently suppress the Catholic civil rights movement (after being wound up by Paisley and Co), which led directly to the creation of the Provos.
 
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