Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[Chojin]

Just voted. Nice to see they have separate ballot boxes these days, must make it easier to count later on.

 

[Caracus2k]

Because you like it like that as it simplifies it and turns into a children's game when people are suffering.

if you want to see some real suffering i suggest you look to a Marxist paradise like Venezuela......

I understand someone was quite a fan of the politician whoose polices principally lead that country to its current state......

I think one our previous PM's had Labours current politics down to a tee in this amalgamation of two truncated quotes...

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

Corbyn's Labour would no doubt be good for reducing relative poverty but only because the very rich would leave and those people who were relatively rich but unable to leave would become poorer....

 

[stewski]

A bit of confirmation bias here methinks. Yes the Conservative campaign has been pretty negative but so have the other campaigns.

So May has met the public, engaged in debate and avoided engaging in personal attacks?

I'm saying, first She expects to ignore parliament and just do whatever she "feels" over Brexit, then SHE calls a snap elections and pretty much sells it as a Presidential race (we are not the USA by the way) and finally she avoids virtually all voters and debate and issues awful awful soundbite after soundbite. A shambles regardless of if "she wins".

 

[Amp34]

I think it will be more, but not by much. It's going to be the biggest own goal in recent political history considering she/they went into the election on the premise that they need a huge majority to make a success of Brexit. EU leaders must be having a bit of a laugh, even though I doubt it will make much difference to negotiations.

I don't think May will last if it's less that a 30 seat majority.

Who's going to start a vote f no confidence though, and who subsequently would want to stand for party leader?

All the big names made it clear they weren't interested last time after it became apparent it would be career ending (Boris for example ). Perhaps a rerun of the last time, with even less people wanting to dtand? Some random backbencher looking to make a name for themselves?

 

[Christmas themed thank]

Well, as someone who has never voted Labour before.....I did tonight

My personal reasons

May wants to control the Internet which is the most idiotic thing I have heard in a long time
After the recent London attacks she said enough is enough, which is again beyond ridiculous (the first time was enough)
She's spent more time telling us why we shouldn't vote for corbyn over why we should vote for her
Cuts to the Police, NHS and Education have been far too drastic
The gap between the rich and poor is just insane, it really is
Fox Hunting......hello......it's 2017 FFS
Private sector is not the holy grail, some things are better in the public sector (and this is coming from someone who never thought much of the public sector before)
Diane Abbot has stepped down lol

I'm not 100% labour, far from it.....but I do think, at this moment in time, they are better than the tories (christ, has it really come to this)

I am in much the same boat. I voted Conservative because of my MP (you know, what we should be voting for Mrs May...) but my seat is safe Tory anyway. Haven't even seen any campaigning around here except "Vote Conservative" signs.

We really need a new central party. Something like New Labour again really.

 

[glenimp617]

I am in much the same boat. I voted Conservative because of my MP (you know, what we should be voting for Mrs May...) but my seat is safe Tory anyway. Haven't even seen any campaigning around here except "Vote Conservative" signs.

We really need a new central party. Something like New Labour again really.

It's funny, I said earlier today we needed a party near the middle ground. Especially with what's happened over the last 12 months.

 

[The_Abyss]

So May has met the public, engaged in debate and avoided engaging in personal attacks?

I'm saying, first She expects to ignore parliament and just do whatever she "feels" over Brexit, then SHE calls a snap elections and pretty much sells it as a Presidential race (we are not the USA by the way) and finally she avoids virtually all voters and debate and issues awful awful soundbite after soundbite. A shambles regardless of if "she wins".

A shambles that people are still voting for. Everyone has a choice, even if our electoral system gives you a choice between two options that where one makes you slightly less nauseous than the other.

 

[LabR@t]

I am in much the same boat. I voted Conservative because of my MP (you know, what we should be voting for Mrs May...) but my seat is safe Tory anyway. Haven't even seen any campaigning around here except "Vote Conservative" signs.




We really need a new central party. Something like New Labour again really.

I voted for"new labour" back in 97, bloody regret that now, Blair ruined the country.
It's no longer the country I grew up in.

 

[wildman]

yep also fracking doesn't cause earthquakes or lead to water pollution even tho there is evidence that suggest it does

pfffff evidence from experts............... thought we were done with their kind already ?

 

[Stretch]

Who's going to start a vote f no confidence though, and who subsequently would want to stand for party leader?

All the big names made it clear they weren't interested last time after it became apparent it would be career ending (Boris for example ). Perhaps a rerun of the last time, with even less people wanting to dtand? Some random backbencher looking to make a name for themselves?

It will be an internal Tory party coup, and I suspect the man in waiting is David Davis.

 

[Christmas themed thank]

I voted for"new labour" back in 97, bloody regret that now, Blair ruined the country.
It's no longer the country I grew up in.

If he hadn't invaded Iraq would you be saying the same thing? Genuinely curious. I think that's what did most for his popularity.

If he got elected now though, he wouldn't have the ability to let in lots of people. Brexit essentially ensures at least somewhat immigration is controlled, which was the other problem people had with him.

I must say, it's been 20 years and we still haven't had as charismatic a leader as him. I'm amazed out of 650 MPs there isn't one.

 

[Judgeneo]

Had some free time so made this...

 

[Amp34]

It will be an internal Tory party coup, and I suspect the man in waiting in David Davis.

Brave, brave man!

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

I voted for"new labour" back in 97, bloody regret that now, Blair ruined the country.
It's no longer the country I grew up in.

Well, as someone who has never voted Labour before.....I did tonight

My personal reasons

May wants to control the Internet which is the most idiotic thing I have heard in a long time
After the recent London attacks she said enough is enough, which is again beyond ridiculous (the first time was enough)
She's spent more time telling us why we shouldn't vote for corbyn over why we should vote for her
Cuts to the Police, NHS and Education have been far too drastic
The gap between the rich and poor is just insane, it really is
Fox Hunting......hello......it's 2017 FFS
Private sector is not the holy grail, some things are better in the public sector (and this is coming from someone who never thought much of the public sector before)
Diane Abbot has stepped down lol

I'm not 100% labour, far from it.....but I do think, at this moment in time, they are better than the tories (christ, has it really come to this)

Same here.

Plus my local Labour MP is a good bloke to be fair. Has a lot of time for people.

 

[wildman]

i do worry that corbyn has the got the under 25 vote (like brexit) but he's not the man to get us through brexit. if labour win, we're ****** for the foreseeable

When/If May wins, we're ****** for the foreseeable. Man this is easy.

not as ****** as we are with corbyn at the helm

****** is ****** regardless of who is doing the *******

 

[Greebo]

See the issue is when people take examples such as 1990s US and current states with poor regulatory practices and extrapolate it into the UK regulatory regime without understanding the differences...

The Tories want to get rid of pesky environmental,protection post brexit as it gets in the way of making money........

 

[Tunney]

Cuts to the Police, NHS and Education have been far too drastic

My local primary school is due to lose over a million pounds of funding per year in real terms if the Conservatives win tonight. Pretty much resigned to it happening.

 

[Greebo]

Just voted about an hour ago. Nowhere near as busy as last year for the referendum, though a bit of queue had developed when I was leaving. I'm going to estimate turnout at around 55-60%. No sign of the security mentioned on the news at some polling stations...

Because you don't live anywhere important.

 

[Bluntwrapped]

Voted SNP here. Labour, despite being much better recently, can't seem to find general consensus among party members. I can't see how the Labour manifesto under Corbyn will hold together, when much of his own party are against him. It's quite interesting - the party band together for this campaign, and suddenly appear far more competent than previous months/years. It's as if they've missed the point all along..

 

[Stretch]

Brave, brave man!

If they only scrape a mediocre majority in an election they called, holding all the cards, on the back of sky high opinion polls, most in the party will be fearing what will happen if they have to fight a proper election. It won't be DD leading the charge.