I wouldn't be surprised if this is the backlash of the JAM's (Just About Managing) families who have felt they have been pushed by the Tories to the edge.
I fall into this category FWIW.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is the backlash of the JAM's (Just About Managing) families who have felt they have been pushed by the Tories to the edge.
I fall into this category FWIW.
Well 72% voted this election.
Perhaps they didn't bother before because it seemed a waste of time, ie tory or tory lite.
Now they have a true labour and socialist option they have come out in droves and I for one am very proud of them
Don't forget the number coming out to vote increased for both the two main parties - it isn't simply down to people voting because there was a true Labour option and polling suggets that Brexit was only a tiny factor in that increase.
I find the numbers kind of odd though - in my constituency the Conservative MP saw a massive 34% increase in the number of people voting for him despite a lot of sentiment against him in the area - UKIP and Labour have very low single digit percentage share of the pie so its not as simple as he picked up UKIP votes (most of which seem to have gone to Labour though impossible to know for sure).
That will be pretty damming if those are the statistics.
I think a lot of people in that age group - myself amongst them - finally woke up to the implications of the Tory direction in the long term.
Yeah I think you have a point there - the cost of living is really squeezing out many who'd have formerly had a loose Tory affiliation.
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Id like to agree to that... Although I have a feeling that if the tories were to change leader and get rid of a few things... Like the dementia tax... a lot of people would change their vote.
But there's a huge lack of direction also eg. we have no vision for what the GB out of the EU looks like
I can certainly see that happening. A few things that will probably be missing from the Queens speech IMO are:
'Dementia tax'
Getting rid of triple lock
Fox hunting
I doubt very much that a government will go after older voters again any time soon.
That was quite a socialist policy. In fact, suggesting that people who can most afford it pay more. Likewise the winter fuel benefit cut off. Social care funding would have been borne by the older generation mainly after death reducing the demand on general taxation.
Agree
More instability (which is quite possible) = weakening of our currency.
I wonder if at any point people will start to regret the decision to come out of the eu.
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What do they have to say for themselves?
In summary they are all off to Downing Street tonight to continue discussions, wouldn't be drawn on their demands but that NI was their primary concern. In addressing Sinn Fein and the Irish Governments concerns regarding any agreement with the conservatives they suggested that Sinn Fein should keep quite as they might in the future go into coalition with the Irish government, which is a hypothetical situation.
Lots of bluster about Sinn Fein and if they wanted to continue with the joint power, devolved NI government. All in not much but the deputy leader who also spoke sounded quite aggressive about the whole issue.
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Who was speaking?
Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds
Sinn Fein going into coalition with a foreign government?
Uhh, did the DUP just imply that NI will eventually join the Republic?
It was simply a case of "whataboutism". It raised a few eyebrows but it was pretty transparent. As someone tweeted
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