As an aside as a cautionary tale about consensus science not a commentary on climate change - many of the scientists whose work makes up the consensus project on climate change were also involved in modelling solar cycle 24, they used consensus science to browbeat a small percentage who disagreed with their projections and subsequently were proved to be completely wrong.
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As an aside as a cautionary tale about consensus science not a commentary on climate change - many of the scientists whose work makes up the consensus project on climate change were also involved in modelling solar cycle 24, they used consensus science to browbeat a small percentage who disagreed with their projections and subsequently were proved to be completely wrong.
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GCSE Chemistry would tell you, you're wrong.
If you are going to copy and paste then provide the link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8376286.stm
I don't think solar cycles/changes are the driving force of climate change but I think the input from them is underestimated - the fastest depletion of glaciers in the recent acceleration of thinning was on the rising edge of solar cycle 24 and has slowed down a bit (but not stopped) as it has gone into the falling side.
At the end of the day regardless of explanation (and I don't 100% buy the "official" story and even demonstrated flaws in it) - there is evidence of significant climate change going on and we would be silly to ignore it and not try and do something about the factors we can control until we have a fuller understanding of what is going on.
https://xkcd.com/1732/ Are you still so sure? That is a very steep change in a very short amount of time, which has never happened before to not be accredited to our industrialisation.
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Who doesn't want to have cleaner seas? Cleaner air ? Reducing pollution is a good thing PERIOD. Anyone who deems it not is a fool.
Exactly we are the most recent group to use the planet as a home, earth will continue.
We can adapt
One of my contentions with the accreditation of our industrialisation to it is that we are also going through a period unprecedented in the configuration of natural factors - which are often written off because individually their input is negligible but unrelated studies of those factors have shown they can work as force multipliers in concertion (something that many studies seem to have poorly taken into account). We'll find out soon enough if there is anything to that or not as many are changing into the opposite part of their cycle, etc. (I'm not writing off the effect of man-made contributions).
We are actually on the crusp of a cooling period. Too much money and too many careers at stake to ever undo the cult of climate now.
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I don't think it's a bad, of course it's not it's the self flagellation of western society that gets my goat.
It's a cash cow for those in power.
Eh my stance is we should be taking drastic action as of yesterday as a species regardless of the actual facts are. Personally I think we have longer (not much but a significant amount given the factors) to deal with it than the popular narative but I'm not advocating complacency - we should be using it to our advantage.
One thing I found interesting after the recent stuff with Qatar is just how deep their influence goes into the whole climate change thing - in some ways it isn't surprising as they have a lot of money and their money goes into a lot of things but it does make me wonder how much influence they have or if there is any agenda there. So far the small number of people who've pointed to there being a conspiracy there haven't produced any actual evidence or provided a direction to look into in that respect, etc. just vague hand waving.
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ahh Labr@t, nice to see you again, back to post some more drivel with no attempt to back it up then run when people blatantly disprove it?
Dont have money to save the NHS, but have more than enough for a bunch of rich toffs because they no longer make 80k + investments.
Poor people voted for this.
Science is a cult now? If anything it's the opposite - kids brainwashed into critical thinking, rather than the rigorous application of the scientific method.
http://joannenova.com.au/2016/09/how-to-make-climate-graphs-look-scary-a-reply-to-xkcd/
Yeah I mean thanks to Kyoto we have lovely air full of diesel fumes that cause disease and actually kill people. There was plenty of actual evidence that a post-Kyoto dash for diesel would be suicidal for the nation's health, yet it was ignored - why?
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like many things, the longer we leave it the more drastic an action we must take. of course you'd like to beleive we as a species would solve the problem but lets face it as with everything we do we're going to walk blindly into it fingers in ears whistling away until the only option is the extreme.
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