Pretty sure a lot of them stood with her, in some painful irony.
Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July
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Pretty sure a lot of them stood with her, in some painful irony.
From what they say with those 2 advisers gone she has practically no close friends and few alliances within the party hence I guess why she is shoring it up and building alliances now with pulling people like Gove back in - end of the day though I think it is in her nature and she won't stop short of doing it sooner or later.
Who needs house of cards lol
Someone had quite the imagination going while writing the BBC's "house of cards" article on May.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40245800
The same BBC that has consistently provided more coverage and had more Conservative representatives over the last decade or so than any other party?
You don't think the whole West is?
The UK, at least the US systems are generally separate from government (Federal agencies), and their system allows people to vote for a singular leader if they wish in a separate contest. Everyone made this GE about May/Corbyn.
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tbh i'd say ours, the americans openly voted in trump who made no attempt at disguise, whereas our lot are still trying to somehow spin this like its a good thing.
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Ashcroft poll's fairly predictable, from what I can see.
By far, far, far the biggest reason people claimed to vote tory was for brexity reasons. Labour far more evenly spread, but NHS the biggest factor.
It's only ages 55+ that really voted Tory.
Age: Lab% - Tory%
18-24: 66 - 18
25-34: 57 - 22
35-44: 49 - 29
45-54: 38 - 39
55-64: 32 - 46
65+: 23 - 58
Women narrowly supported Labour (41-39), but men weren't so keen (35-43).
53% of Tory voters own their houses outright, without a mortgage, as opposed to 29% for Labour... but that could just be old people skew.
There's a slight skew toward more education and voting Labour... but again, that could be old people skew.
The only employment status bracket that didn't prefer Labour was... retirees.
Basically old, rich, white guys voted for the Tories. shock.
labour voters generally didn't put "Corbyn would be a good PM" as being a reason for voting labour (35% put it top 3), whereas Tory voters flippin loved May (72% put it top 3).
Labour voters more pointed at trusting the motives of the party or liking the promises of the party.
Seems slightly contradictory that. "We like everything Corbyn's Labour has promised and we trust them... but we're still not that fussed about Corbyn". I suppose that could just mean Labour attracted people who actually cared about policies, and didn't do the whole personality politics BS.
Given a choice of May, Corbyn or Don't Know. Only 76% of Labour voters (and 1% of Tories) thought Corbyn would be the best PM. 98% of Tory voters (and 8% of Labour voters) thought May would be the best PM.
By far, far, far the biggest reason people claimed to vote tory was for brexity reasons. Labour far more evenly spread, but NHS the biggest factor.
It's only ages 55+ that really voted Tory.
Age: Lab% - Tory%
18-24: 66 - 18
25-34: 57 - 22
35-44: 49 - 29
45-54: 38 - 39
55-64: 32 - 46
65+: 23 - 58
Women narrowly supported Labour (41-39), but men weren't so keen (35-43).
53% of Tory voters own their houses outright, without a mortgage, as opposed to 29% for Labour... but that could just be old people skew.
There's a slight skew toward more education and voting Labour... but again, that could be old people skew.
The only employment status bracket that didn't prefer Labour was... retirees.
Basically old, rich, white guys voted for the Tories. shock.
labour voters generally didn't put "Corbyn would be a good PM" as being a reason for voting labour (35% put it top 3), whereas Tory voters flippin loved May (72% put it top 3).
Labour voters more pointed at trusting the motives of the party or liking the promises of the party.
Seems slightly contradictory that. "We like everything Corbyn's Labour has promised and we trust them... but we're still not that fussed about Corbyn". I suppose that could just mean Labour attracted people who actually cared about policies, and didn't do the whole personality politics BS.
Given a choice of May, Corbyn or Don't Know. Only 76% of Labour voters (and 1% of Tories) thought Corbyn would be the best PM. 98% of Tory voters (and 8% of Labour voters) thought May would be the best PM.
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so safe enough conclusion that at least a chunk of the labour vote was a tactical "anyone but the conservatives".
makes sense, hell i don't agree with them on a fair few topics but with the lib dems still suffering as a non-entity i can see why people moved that way.
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Well i think the bits i put in bold were the most interesting.
For the past few days we have none stop heard from the older generation how the young have ruined this general election as they dont know what they are voting for.
I hope these statistics put that to rest (Although we will probably now hear anyone in the 45-55 demographic or under is now stupid / were given sweets to vote labour / dont understand politics)
It seems to me the people who are voting labour are REALLY feeling the pinch and that the ones voting Conservatives are comforable homeowners and retirees that no longer feel the effects that the rest are going through. If its anyone being selfish now... It's the elder lot. They are so out of depth of what is actually happening to the rest of the UK demographic.
Very interesting poll, I wonder if when the older generation are no longer with us that the younger ones moving into the older age groups swing towards conservatives, if not they aren't going to stand a chance in the future unless they change their stance dramatically.
Sturgeon - voters rejected hard Brexit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-40252351/nicola-sturgeon-voters-rejected-hard-brexit
Uhm - no, they didn't. 85% of people voted for a party that supported leaving the single market (Labour and Conservatives).
Uhm - no, they didn't. 85% of people voted for a party that supported leaving the single market (Labour and Conservatives).
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Labour and SNP were not a Hard Brexit choice.
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a choice between "hard brexit" and "hard brexit" isn't exactly a choice though
There is always a point voting if merely to exercise you democratic right to cast a vote even in circumstances where it may not result in a change in MP as it shows you want to be engaged in the process and thus is gives you the right to sound off about it when you don't like it.
DUP won't stand for a hard Brexit either, and they are the only thing keeping the Conservatives propped up.
Listening to David Davis today, he seemed quite open to the idea of taking advice from the likes of Kier Starmer about Brexit, so I have a feeling that this isn't going to be the Brexit that some are expecting.
Listening to David Davis today, he seemed quite open to the idea of taking advice from the likes of Kier Starmer about Brexit, so I have a feeling that this isn't going to be the Brexit that some are expecting.
Labour have been coy about what exactly their position is, but it comes across as hard brexit, at least with those in charge and their manifesto hints at it as well:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...mer-open-britain-campaign-group-a7739226.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...mer-open-britain-campaign-group-a7739226.html
Aka hard brexit - no FoM means we're out of the Single Market if you believe most people. Though Labour will attempt to negotiate to retain access whilst maintaining control of immigration (only possible if compensation is agreed with the EU - aka we have to pay for it).
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