Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July
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Lib Dem leadership needs to grow a set and step up if they've got any moral courage... would be much better for them to work out a deal (including trying to soften any Brexit negotiations) than to just stand on the sidelines while the DUP makes demands instead.
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What does it tell me? I'll answer, it tells me nothing substantial at all.
Those who have an abortion and don't go on to protest abortions far outnumber those who do. Your point is weak.
Unfortunately they are still telling their members they have no intention of doing so.
if you look at polls regarding people who have had an abortion, it would say otherwise. MORI poll springs to mind, there's others though
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It's just ignorance. It's never about people they know. Just like racism. Racists always have a best mate who's black. They're usually civil with people they spend time around.
It's the ones they read about in the Daily Mail that they hate.
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There are a lot of polls, everything I've seen suggests that a large majority of women do not regret their abortion (s). Which specific poll are you referring to?
Maybe Mrs May should go to them cap in hand with an offer instead of jumping into bed with the lunatic fringe? Oh but that would require her to acknowledge she messed up the election and needs to compromise and not carry on regardless!
Sadly there can't be any deal this time the lib dems are just to far away from the torries on Europe at the minute any weakening of the hard brexit stance will destroy the unity of the Conservative party and the lib dems could never step back from a second reffurendum.
I don't think it would make any difference - one of my friends is active with the Lib Dems and after the Farron announcement they sent emails around saying that nothing had changed in that respect and that they still absolutely wouldn't entertain a coalition with the Conservatives.
I don't think it would either but it would put pressure on them and show May isn't totally out of touch/ deluded!
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This whole fire incident totally sums up May for me. Hanging around with firemen and security, with no effort to engage people.
She just has to **** off as soon as humanly possible. She just doesn't feel comfortable dealing with everyday people, who make up the majority of the country. Even the Queen does a far better job, rather she was PM.
She just has to **** off as soon as humanly possible. She just doesn't feel comfortable dealing with everyday people, who make up the majority of the country. Even the Queen does a far better job, rather she was PM.
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She visited a load of the injured in hospital and the other day had a load of the survivors visit 10 downing Street in order to air their concerns on top of speaking to all the fireman police, authorities etc. All on top of everything else that is needed to be done when running a country.
Perhaps you should take that chip of your shoulder. I wouldn't want to go mingle with all the corbyn momentum left wing socialist riff raff that have been hanging around there just waiting to use this for political gain either.
They even started protests storming council buildings. All with socialist and corbyn placards No doubt that's all ok with you of course?
Dismissing victims and those who lost their homes as 'corbyn momentum left wing socialist riff raff' is a very dangerous road to go down, and also speaks volunes about your lack of empathy and understanding. This isn't about you vs them, this is about a community who have long been saying for years that their living situation has been purposefully neglected, and you're here trying to score political points.
This is why everyone is angry.
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It's not that 'life changing' when over one third of abortions each year are repeat abortions, maybe they just like the sensation? It costs one million pounds per week for the NHS to conduct repeat abortions, maybe only the first one should be a freebie?
What ever your opinion on abortion the current law is very flaky, if you read the law and interpret it as written I think the statistic on abortions would be much lower but unfortunately the condition 'of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family;' seems to also be interpreted to include in injury to the purse or wallet and/or general inconvenience.
If people were more responsible with sexual encounters abortion rates would be a lot lower but unfortunately people take very little accountability for themselves and take even less accountability for the consequences (I know of some truly awful stories which I can't repeat here). I do believe in abortion on the grounds predicated by the current law but the current law is being disregarded.
I think it's a terrible culture that treats children, even unborn children, as disposable and I don't buy the argument that women have, or should have, total rights to do what ever they feel like. Most would have done well to exercise that right on the night of conception.
The abortion argument is a microcosm of society at large whereby nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions and I think it's shameful.
May's scrapped next years Queens Speech, before we've even had this years, so they can push through 'controversial' legislation without any of that awkward voting stuff getting in the way...
http://news.sky.com/story/queens-sp...llow-more-time-to-tackle-brexit-laws-10918923
http://news.sky.com/story/queens-sp...llow-more-time-to-tackle-brexit-laws-10918923
Whilst I agree she should go, I also think her meeting the people wasn't her sole choice. More likely her being advised that she would basically be publicly humiliated By the multitude of very vocal "labour voters" for use of a better set of words to describe them.
She has about as much charisma as potato, who on earth would genuinely want to be comforted by her? It would be utterly disgenuine sympathy. I think the victims got lucky not having to meet her.
It's never really a great time to have a tragic event like this, but it's just being used politically by all sides and it's frankly sick and the media love it.
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Tbh the Queen turns up... Oh I see ones flat has been gutted. How terrible, my oh my.
Then drives off home to a palace.
How is that good?
Here's a million quid for you guys to get some new clothes and try to begin piecing back something of normality.
Then drives off home to a palace.
How is that good?
Here's a million quid for you guys to get some new clothes and try to begin piecing back something of normality.
I have no doubt the area has been flooded with Labour activists very soon after the event to make sure that anyone that's in the government that showed up are publicly humiliated.
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