Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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Greebo said:
Look at it the other way. He has lead his party from an almost certain whitewash, collapse to almost being the 3rd party in the country to given the Tories a close run. A lot fo people would see that as a positive move.

One thing is for sure, if it hadnt been for him and his speeches/interviews I am sure they would have been down to around 100 seats. Hes been the main positive reason for their vote increasing.
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This is the most bizarre argument I've heard.

They were only in such dire straits because he is leader. It wasn't because Labour was an inherently tarnished brand. We won't know that he's giving the Tories a close run until the results are out, but anything less than victory is a defeat. There are no upsides, no positives, it's defeat.
 
scorza said:
Not left-wing enough for Corbyn.

To clarify, there are plenty of Labour MPs who are perfectly capable of being a competent leader of their party, but Corbyn won't want any of them to succeed him because they don't follow his looney-left ideology. For Corbyn to retire he needs to be able to recommend someone who agrees with him, and who doesn't have the baggage he does - supporting terrorists etc.
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Emily Thornberry will be next!
 
satchef1 said:
At which point he'll either stand for the leadership again and be re-elected, possibly with a larger majority than the last two times he's won that contest. Or, he'll stand aside in favour of an heir, who will win the contest in a landslide.

Unless today is a huge Labour rout, the direction of the party isn't going to change. On the ground, many activists seem positive. Maybe they live in a bubble? The only way they'll accept that though is if Labour receive a thrashing.
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that would 100% be the end of Labour if he tries to clingon if they take a pasting even if it goes to a leadership vote again. If he gets within a whisker and actually increases Labour seats then i can see him staying, if their vote share and seat count go down he has to walk.

Thompson_NCL said:
This is the most bizarre argument I've heard.

They were only in such dire straits because he is leader. It wasn't because Labour was an inherently tarnished brand. We won't know that he's giving the Tories a close run until the results are out, but anything less than victory is a defeat. There are no upsides, no positives, it's defeat.
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please.......... labour have been tarnished since brown, and Milliband added a whole extra layer of oxidation to the tarnish
 
Thompson_NCL said:
This is the most bizarre argument I've heard.

They were only in such dire straits because he is leader. It wasn't because Labour was an inherently tarnished brand. We won't know that he's giving the Tories a close run until the results are out, but anything less than victory is a defeat. There are no upsides, no positives, it's defeat.
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So you think a defeat should automatically mean a leader has to resign?

So if May happens to win with less seats should she go as well?
 
gettothechopper said:
Hillary Benn would get my vote

I'll point out that the only way labour won elections in my lifetime (35 years) was by being more central than full blown leftie labour
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To be fair they were Tory lite when they won. In fact if it wasn't for the name, if you looked at their Manifesto and the things they did, they could have been Tories.

wildman said:
2 point difference in favour of Tory

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39869459

edit........... actually 1
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+/- 3% though so it could be a 4% win for Tories which is more likely.

In fact if you take the average of all the polls yesterday you end up with 42.8% Tory 36.6% Labour which as a result would still match all the poll results with they +/- 3% accuracy.
 
scorza said:
Not left-wing enough for Corbyn.

To clarify, there are plenty of Labour MPs who are perfectly capable of being a competent leader of their party, but Corbyn won't want any of them to succeed him because they don't follow his looney-left ideology. For Corbyn to retire he needs to be able to recommend someone who agrees with him, and who doesn't have the baggage he does - supporting terrorists etc.
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Clive Lewis.
 
I'm certainly no fan of the Tory manifesto this election, but I honestly believe that Corbyn would be a disaster.

If Labour win this one that would probably be the last straw for me, and I'd end up seriously evaluating my emigration options. His policies would not be good for me on a personal level, I don't see them being good for the economy, and although I respect him for sticking to his guns in the face of great pressure, I just feel he'd be bad for the country.
 
Evangelion said:
Wales does not look good for Labour. The entire province went full Brexit, so I expect Welsh voters to support the Tories and anyone else who can promise more white policemen on the streets of Swansea.
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Wales is a Labour administration and likely to remain so. I live in West Wales which is referred to as Little England which is current a Tory constituency.

Wales is a bit of a basket case. Strong anti-EU vote yet demonstrably one of the net gainers from being in the EU. Strong and stable facepalm

One thing I'm not sure about is what is devolved to Wales - is Education and Healthcare? Because if it is, then those expecting Labour to turn either around are going to be in for a bit of a let down.
 
Evangelion said:
Wales does not look good for Labour. The entire province went full Brexit, so I expect Welsh voters to support the Tories and anyone else who can promise more white policemen on the streets of Swansea.
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one thing i dont get is why labour continually do their campaging at 11-12 am!?

im getting ****** off with them waking me up after nights.

cons candidates guys came round at a more respectable 6pm
 
Rids said:
I'm certainly no fan of the Tory manifesto this election, but I honestly believe that Corbyn would be a disaster.

If Labour win this one that would probably be the last straw for me, and I'd end up seriously evaluating my emigration options. His policies would not be good for me on a personal level, I don't see them being good for the economy, and although I respect him for sticking to his guns in the face of great pressure, I just feel he'd be bad for the country.
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LOL because diamond shaped cliff-edge brexit is sooooooo good for the economy?
 
The result is of course pending, but in the event of a reasonable Labour loss (Conservatives not running away with more than, say, a 70 seat lead) i think Corbyn's more than done enough to justify staying on. He and Labour have run a pretty good campaign, certainly compared to the Conservatives. He's been energetic and largely spoken very well. This, inspite of his old baggage coming up to haunt him and a rapid right wing press continually telling us that he's the devil.

Whoever is in power is going to have a very challenging parliament. Corbyn's manifesto, whether it is believed to be credible or not, will offer a very different approach to many points that the Government will find challenging, and that's the perfect place for an opposition to be. Whether or not he can sustain this energy and maintain his own party's support over that 5 year period is, perhaps, another matter.
 
Lol..

I just had a Labour canvasser knock on the door...the bloody state of it, looked like it had just come from 'Marxist today' meeting, green parker, ripped jeans, goatee & piercings :rolleyes:

I wouldn't trust them to run a green light, never mind a country.
 
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