None the bloke is a **** that should have been sacked. His antics with ferrari should have him basically black balled from f1. Its only his depth of how far the rot went in mclaren that kept a contractor in a job. He wasn't even a permanent worker yet kept his job.
F1 2009 Season discussion/development thread
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None the bloke is a **** that should have been sacked. His antics with ferrari should have him basically black balled from f1. Its only his depth of how far the rot went in mclaren that kept a contractor in a job. He wasn't even a permanent worker yet kept his job.
None - he's past it imo.
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Not quite - 20 cars this year aren't there?
I don't think giving a point to everyone who finishes is a bad thing though, its a reward for not crashing and having a reliable car. So long as there is a big difference between finishing at the fast en of the grid and at the back I think it could only be a good thing.
You'd get the last 2 cars on the grid fighting over a single point or something, I reckon it would be great
Would it not be better to restrict the points back to the top 6 like it was until recently (10,6,4,3,2,1). They are already saying it’s not worth the risk fighting for an extra point. If could finish 15 and Still Score points were the incentive to pass, as were ever I finished I would pretty mush still score a point
Why not just give a bonus point for Pole and the fastest lap or a bonus like in Nascar for any driver that leads a lap.
Just a thought
Have I got to come in here and bang some heads together?
It's alright knip. I'll be out of everyones hair now until the Aussie GP thread. It's not worth trying to convince some of you that everything the FIA does isn't in fact some giant conspiracy to hand every title to Ferrari and their drivers. Or that Bernie Ecclestone isn't in fact the Devil incarnate. Or that Lewis Hamilton isn't completely infallible.
See you all in the Aussie thread. I'll be watching right from the first televised session, all being well
In terms of skill level in 2007, I feel Alonso was ahead. However, nobody can take Hamilton's achievement that year of matching Alonso's points total, in his first season.
In summary, they both did well, though I feel Alonso did better. Button on the other hand, is struggling to contain the old man of F1 - Barrichello who is certainly not in the same league as Alonso (or Hamilton).
Dude, he did what he did to improve McLaren's position. For this you can't sack a driver. And although it was never made public, to say that the McLaren hierachy knew nothing of what PDLR and Alonso were doing with regard to Ferrari data, is naive.
Nigel Stepney on the other hand was not acting in the best interests of his team (by sharing Ferrari data with their main rivals - McLaren) and for that deserved to get the sack.
I for one, would have no problem having an employee who was acting in the best interests of my company.
You skipped the previous reasoning. Before you said Alonso suffered and Hamilton got closer than he would because of the Mclaren fall out.
You still believe that or not.
Balls pure balls. He was not working in the best interests of the company at all. You really think doing something regarded as cheating that could have cost his team a championship and did cost the team millions of dollars is doing something in the best interests of the company.
BS
If I work for Airbus and I'm given Boeing details and methods and I get caught passing this information on or using it on the airbus, no one at airbus is going to keep me because I was just working with the best interests of the company at heart.
I'd be sacked and then sued by the company I worked for.
Mclaren should have done the same with that Pedro dela ****. Yet they couldn't because of what else he might reveal. He's a snivelling **** and I hope I never see him drive a race car in a championship again.
An extra point at the top end of the grid isn't a big different, an extra point at the low end of the Grid is a massive difference. Let's say you could get a single point from 15th, if this was in place the first place would be worth 20+ points - a big difference and worth fighting your way up the grid.
I'd like to see points further down the grid as it would mean there would be races for every position, without it just coming down to an odd piece of luck when a bottom 10 car finishes up in the points due to accidents or similar.
As to a point for pole, I think that would be interesting, points per lap wouldn't work for me though...
point for pole and a point of most laps led would be a good addition. As would 12,9,7,5,4,3,2,1 for places.
Of course I still believe it. But I dont take anything away from Hamilton's stunning debut season. Even with Alonso disadvantaged, to be able to match his points total is not easy.
Your argument assumes that your bosses know nothing about what you are doing. My belief is that McLaren's hierachy knew exactly what was going on. The Ferrari info was being passed around via email (and probably other methods) quite freely, as though there was nothing to hide.
McLaren made a really bad job of the cover-up and should've briefed the necessary personnel to be careful when discussing Ferrari data. Furthermore, after they were being investigated, they should've pulled together and come up with a cover story. The worst thing they could've done is admit everything.
I would imagine they had no choice but to come cleam because McLaren did not no if Alonso would spill the beans at some point - you know what he's like. Better to admit what was going on rather than a driver going to the press.
Not sure about the PDLR story. I can't see Mclaren letting him keep his job by what amounts to blackmail.
So is it now likely that BrawnGP will actually qualify in significant positions? Its not just wishful thinking?
Not sure about the PDLR story. I can't see Mclaren letting him keep his job by what amounts to blackmail.
So is it now likely that BrawnGP will actually qualify in significant positions? Its not just wishful thinking?
Been reading the FOTA recommendations have we? Wish the FIA would!
Going back to the earlier comments on how the McLaren would be untouchable on the straights thanks to KERS... well ok they will have more BHP when using it, but surely they will have to stick some more wing (in comparison to say BGP/Ferrari) on the car to compensate for their handeling problem, hence nullifying the advantage that KERS gave them?
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