F1 2012 - Teams and Drivers - Who goes where?!
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Last years HRT which spent most of the time falling to pieces every weekend and a handful of races at the end of this year when Renault have abandoned a flawed concept, yet he still showed some promise recently.
I'm not saying he should have Grosjean's seat, he deserves his 2nd chance. I just think there are some other drivers on the grid that imo have less talent.
Soldato
Agreed.
Grosjean deserves his seat, but Senna deserves a seat and given a chance.
For example most would probably pick Senna over Maldonado.
hes already had his second chance
You've misunderstood, not quite sure how as it was obvious I was talking about Grosjean.
Soldato
Im a huge f1 fan, but jeez has it gone to pot over the past 2 years.
Red bull domination, by no mistake or without hardwork but how the teams have no answer for them gets me, apart from a glimps here or their, when we do get to a track where red bull should be weak they dominate.
Driver changes, the sport is so money driven who can bring what money to the team while some good drivers do not get the respect they should cause either they aint on the track or they are for a lessa team.
I'm with you guys, Senna who I thought drove some good races and while to begin with @ team lotus struggled, has done quite a reasonable job considering the cars capabilitys.
And that is what strikes me as crazy, drivers bringing all the money in the world for a drive, for a team that dosnt produce a good car, and the driver can only drive that car to the maximum no more, if its capable of a 1.20 minute lap he would probably do it in a 1.20.3. Yet when it comes to the end of the season blame the driver and get him gone. despite the money bought to the team. its balls.
Red bull domination, by no mistake or without hardwork but how the teams have no answer for them gets me, apart from a glimps here or their, when we do get to a track where red bull should be weak they dominate.
Driver changes, the sport is so money driven who can bring what money to the team while some good drivers do not get the respect they should cause either they aint on the track or they are for a lessa team.
I'm with you guys, Senna who I thought drove some good races and while to begin with @ team lotus struggled, has done quite a reasonable job considering the cars capabilitys.
And that is what strikes me as crazy, drivers bringing all the money in the world for a drive, for a team that dosnt produce a good car, and the driver can only drive that car to the maximum no more, if its capable of a 1.20 minute lap he would probably do it in a 1.20.3. Yet when it comes to the end of the season blame the driver and get him gone. despite the money bought to the team. its balls.
Soldato
What was the time difference between say the podium places and the back markers in the senna era or other more recent times?
Soldato
Give over, arknor. A joke would be Andrea Moda. Or Life F1. Or Coloni, EuroBrun, the Mastercar Lola debacle, Forti....
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will be intresting to see who will be quickest between Grosjean and Kimi.
I reccon Grosjean will be faster.......kimi will be drifting it too much
I reccon Grosjean will be faster.......kimi will be drifting it too much
Soldato
Wow....oookay. Not sure what I did to you to deserve that, but alright - stick me on 'ignore' if you find me that objectionable
Soldato
Looks ever more likely that Rubens doesn't have a seat for 2012.
Soldato
A bit before my time, can you explain? Or will read Wikipedia tomorrow
http://www.f1rejects.com/teams/index.html
Go here, and read. When the three bottom teams we have now exit F1 with less than six points to their name, arknor can call them a joke. Until then....not even close.
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So go on then arknor, what's more of a joke? Knocking around at the back of the grid, still in the same universe as the rest of the field but not challenging them....or rocking up with an unsafe, horribly unreliable, laughably slow, hopeless pile of crap?
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The 3 new teams got a raw deal. They joined F1 under the promise of a budget cap that never materialized, and then had all their in season testing taken away from them. They are all 12 months behind where they would have planned to be, and where they likely would have been had there been 1 or 2 in season tests.
Next year is crunch time though. They need to be knocking on the midfield or fans, or at the very least, sponsors, will start turning their back on them.
Oh, and lol, arknor.
Next year is crunch time though. They need to be knocking on the midfield or fans, or at the very least, sponsors, will start turning their back on them.
Oh, and lol, arknor.
Soldato
That site is great, thanks. How did some of these teams afford to run cars who never even per-qualified for several seasons
Different times, different sponsorship climate, in some cases just dumb luck. You had teams come in like Jordan in '91, who built a tidy little car and didn't try anything too drastic, and they punched well above their weight. Then you had teams like Andrea Moda who joined a year later (with a car that at least had some pedigree, being the design that BMW commissioned for their aborted entry) and were just a complete farce from ignominious start to inglorious finish. The difference between the two? Management. Much as I dislike Eddie Jordan, he at least knew what he was doing and was enough of a professional to get the job done. Andrea Sassetti was just an incompetent crook!
But according to arknor, it's Team Lotus/Caterham, HRT and Marussia who are a joke, despite at least being in the same universe as everyone else (as in, able to qualify for the races and finish most of the time). And me, apparently. Hey ho. Luckily for him I won't be in the race weekend threads much next season since I won't be watching live (I'll be damned if I get Sky just to watch a bunch of F1 races, it's not that good a show!).
No they never