*** FA Cup - Qtr Finals - 12th & 13th March 2011 ***

I thought Valencia looked good today considering it was his first day back. Good news all round for us!

Arsenal are still a good side no matter how you look at the cup exits. They didn't have easy ties, it makes me laugh how people are quick to **** them off. No one in the premier league is strolling through, its bloody hard this year. Bang for buck, Wenger has been one of the best, there's no doubt.
 
The worst thing about Wenger is how tactically incompetent he is. Every season we beat Arsenal using the same basic tactics and he still doesn't know what to do about it. I think it was last season that both us and Chelsea beat them the same way in the space of a few weeks.
 
I think it's silly for people wanting Wenger sacked, like there is anyone better to replace him. The top managers will only go to the top spenders, and Arsenal won't be top spenders for a long, long time!

Also.. lol at the people saying Wilshere is an average player. The people that say that, have obviously not watched him all season, and thus haven't seen enough to pass judgement.
 
jonneymendoza said:
replace him with Morinho has he has indicated that he wants to be a manager in the premiership again
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It'd be a dream, he's tactically very sound and can motivate people better than Wenger. Perhaps he's sick of having the biggest budget out of his competitors and would like a challenge; we don't have a giant pot of money like Inter, Real or Chelsea have.

However of course the reverse is probably true. Plus I'd rather not have Carvahlo at us.
 
[Cas];18658084 said:
and Arsenal won't be top spenders for a long, long time!
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As I've said countless times, this is the crux of the matter.

If Arsenal haven't got the money like some say then the job Wenger's doing is excellent. However if there is money to be spent and Wenger's simply refusing to spend it because of his beliefs then questions have to be asked.

I should add that even if there is money to be spent, the reason for it not being spent may simply be Wenger/Arsenal being overly cautious. They may not want to commit large amounts of money towards the squad until their stadium debt is significantly reduced.
 
getting rid of wenger wont make arsenal fall apart. they are better managers out there then him. wenger is becoming an "average manager" nowadays.

Morinho would be the perfect replacement. he will injetc that winning mentality that you talking about bobby and a defence that can ****ing defend for once and the tactical genius needed to win games unlike wenger who is the most one dimensional manager ever. playing keep ball, fancy cack even when your losing the game

Today was a fine example. we was 2:0 and instead of showing more eargency by either banging in the ball in the box or speeding up the pace of our play, we instead still made 10 passes between our defenders and midfielders before our forwards had sight of the ball.

pathetic and predictable. who's to blame for that? wenger of course. doesn't matter if fabregas or ****ing xavi and messi was in our team, wenger would instruct messi to keep passing the ball to our defenders instead of forwards when your 2:0 down.

Bobby you keep defending him as if he is god at arsenal. he is not. i think you and some arsenal fans are scared of change. scared of getting rid of wenger in fear we will go backwards. we may do if we sack him but at the same time we may go forwards and start winning things again.

bobby you seem like a man that doesnt liek taking risks in life. people who take risks in life sometimes are the ones that are better off then some. You have got to take risks in life osmetimes for you to be succesfull and imo, sacking wenger could be the best thing that has happened for arsenal for a long time.

who cares about past glory, the past is the past. we need to be talking about the future and mr wenger is not the future and needs to go end of the season if he cant deliver us the league.

Bobby, another thing. WE ARE FAR away from winning things. very very far. dont get mislead by us finining in the top 4 all the time. yea its good achievement compared to teams finishing below us but finishing in the top 4 dont win you trophies and in the history of football, you are remembered for trophies. not league positions. i am sure there has been a similar premiership team that has consistantly finished in the top 4 before but do people remember that team that "nearly" won something? of course not.

will people, 10 years in the future remember arsenal the team that finished in teh top 4 consistantly? hell no. they will remember united wining trophies, barcelona winning trophies etc etc. no one gives a **** about "2nd" place so to speak.

And about replacing team members with quality players, what ****ing world you live in? wake teh **** up. wenger dont buy quality "ready made" players. he buys 10 year olds. This is yet ANOTHER reason why wenger needs to go because he is a stubborn old ******* that wont buy quality players but instead rely on ****ing denilsion and diaby to do the job.
 
It'll be interesting to see what happens after this season ends, in terms of contract renewals, players in and out, new tactics as well perhaps, whatever happens something definitely needs to change because it's clear that at the moment things don't seem to be going so great. Wenger was saying how we finish games stronger than we start them, that's probably because of subs or his random tactic changes, we should just be playing 4-4-2 like we did when we actually won things, this 1 man up front business isn't doing anything and if we are playing 4-3-3 its just a stupidly narrow midfield with all the attackers out wide apart from an isolated front man, van Persie has done well to score as many as he has imo, same with Chamakh and Bendtner.
 
Mourinho will turn Arsenal into a borefest by there own standards. Yes you may win more, but you'll also probably have the appeal of an 80's / early 90's Arsenal. Plus he tends to be short term.
 
GiT said:
Mourinho will turn Arsenal into a borefest by there own standards. Yes you may win more, but you'll also probably have the appeal of an 80's / early 90's Arsenal. Plus he tends to be short term.
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dont give a ****. as long as we start wining things and not become a joke of a club
 
Shamikebab said:
The worst thing about Wenger is how tactically incompetent he is. Every season we beat Arsenal using the same basic tactics and he still doesn't know what to do about it. I think it was last season that both us and Chelsea beat them the same way in the space of a few weeks.
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He's stubborn and fixed in his belief that if the team play their way and play well, then the opposition tactics are irrelevant.
 
Mourinho will want and need a massive transfer kitty to take the Arsenal job. Arsenal haven't got the players to play the Mourinho way, he'd need to buy near enough a new squad.

I actually can't believe I'm bother posting anything regarding Mourinho going to Arsenal. Could there possibly be a less suitable fit? It's never going to happen.
Somnambulist said:
He's stubborn and fixed in his belief that if the team play their way and play well, then the opposition tactics are irrelevant.
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Spot on. Wenger's not a tactician, he's a coach.
 
I wouldnt say Arsenal were a joke. They have a great history, and play Great football and are renowned for that world wide. No trophies is a s**ter, but the top is close atm, and Wenger has the joint most points. Hardly regression.
 
Interesting midfield today, thought VDS, Smalling, Rooney and Hernandez played well
great to see Valencia back today hope he starts on tuesday.

Gibson in the middle was once again awful, not quick enough to the ball and hes a pointer whenever he miss places a pass (which is often) he is waving his arms about blaming others and seems to have forgot how to shoot ! When he got in the team was trying a couple of shots a game but now not scored for ages :(

Goto agree with Amtechfox the traffic was terrible tonight :( just over 6miles and took me hour and half to get home :eek:
 
BaZ87 said:
Spot on. Wenger's not a tactician, he's a coach.
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Someone noticed! :eek: He's always been the same, he grows teams to beat teams their own way, where as someone like Mourinho will teach a team to stop the opposition playing their way. 2 completely different kind of managers, and I'd hate Arsenal to go the Mourinho route.
 
BaZ87 said:
As I've said countless times, this is the crux of the matter.

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This is what a lot of fans don't understand.

Wenger has to get us to fourth each year and to the knock out stages of the CL afterwards. Which he does. Doing better in any competition would require more spending on wages and transfer fees than we could recuperate back by any extra prize / tv money, from where we usually get to compared to winning.

What happened when we were in danger of missing out? He DID splash out for Arshavin.

However other fan issues are right. The guy is tactically poor, a lot of players aren't used to the best of their abilities, we seemingly keep playing a formation we do worse in. Our first team gets injured a lot and he at the end of the day is also responsible for the back ups. Which are ****.
 
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It's galling as an Arsenal supporter but really how many of us thought we were going to get a result there once Utd got the home draw? How long is it since they actually lost at Old Trafford?
Yes we dominated the first 30mins but then Almunia reverts to type and pats their first and fairly tame attempt on goal straight into the middle of our 6 yard box for an easy tap-in. VDS would've held that initial header no probs. I know Almunia made a couple of saves in the game but he just seems hopeless with the bread and butter stuff that other keepers snaffle up as a matter of course.
After that it's just a matter of time until we concede a second whilst chasing the game.
As I say for me the writing was on the wall as soon as the draw came out so lets concentrate on the league where we'll have them at ours hopefully ;).
 
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