Yes please, bring them on!I suppose no one cares about results for the sexy, new 7700 eXpensive edition then
Instructions are in CAT's OP, plus there's a link to the original thread on AT there too.
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Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread(need some Zen3 and Zen4 results!)
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Instructions are in CAT's OP, plus there's a link to the original thread on AT there too.
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13700K (5.6GHz all P-cores, 4.4GHz all E-Cores, x49 Ring), 2x8GB DDR4 4100MHz 16-16-16-34, Gear 1, CR1, 1.56V, Patriot Viper Steel 4400CL19 - PVS416G440C9K), RTX 3080, Win11
Save1 (Corvega): 11687 - 123.8 FPS Save2 (City): 7962 - 153.1 FPS AVG: 138.45 FPS
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Thanks, that score puts you at the top of the scoreboard!13700K (5.6GHz all P-cores, 4.4GHz all E-Cores, x49 Ring), 2x8GB DDR4 4100MHz 16-16-16-34, Gear 1, CR1, 1.56V, Patriot Viper Steel 4400CL19 - PVS416G440C9K), RTX 3080, Win11
Save1 (Corvega): 11687 - 123.8 FPS Save2 (City): 7962 - 153.1 FPS AVG: 138.45 FPS
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Thanks, that score puts you at the top of the scoreboard!
Unless there is a GPU bottleneck being reached,it seems Alderlake and Raptorlake seem to be similar in performance. It could be another instance,that the game is very L3/memory speed and latency dependent.
I noticed this post over on AT forums:
Page 6 - [Part 3] Measuring CPU Draw Call Performance in Fallout 4
Page 6 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
forums.anandtech.com
Well same core, so caches and thermals are about the only actual changes between the two. It is always possible RPL has a better IMC so maybe if someone were to post RPL + Extreme DDR5 clocks they might take the #1 spot.Unless there is a GPU bottleneck being reached,it seems Alderlake and Raptorlake seem to be similar in performance. It could be another instance,that the game is very L3/memory speed and latency dependent.
I noticed this post over on AT forums:
Page 6 - [Part 3] Measuring CPU Draw Call Performance in Fallout 4
Page 6 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Had sort of missed that post over on AT. Would certainly be an interesting data point to add these benches but not everyone wants more work!
The cores on Raptorlake are faster and seem to clock higher,but the Creation Engine version in Fallout 4 shows very limited scaling past six cores. From AT:
Intel Core i9-13900K and i5-13600K Review: Raptor Lake Brings More Bite
I think any changes at similar RAM speeds and latencies might be down to the increase in L2 cache size.
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Another update.
13600K @5.6GHz
2x16 Kingston DDR4 @4200MHz 17-23-22-40 Gear 1
We can remove the previous OC result and keep the stock and this one if you agree, so we don't clutter the sheet more than it already is.
13600K @5.6GHz
2x16 Kingston DDR4 @4200MHz 17-23-22-40 Gear 1
We can remove the previous OC result and keep the stock and this one if you agree, so we don't clutter the sheet more than it already is.
That moves your score up a few places:
I could weed out the less useful rows but would have to go through each one. Also, the Rank column is just using row count so hiding whole rows would throw that out.
I'll stick with Spoiler for now
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Ring bus speed was also improved: on Alder Lake max achievable speed with E-cores on was about 500MHz lower than with them turned off (e.g. 4.8 vs 4.3 GHz), on Raptor Lake it's the same, 4.9 GHz for me.
I'm back with the fastest DDR5 in the world, possibly, and a 13700KF.
Will post results soon. ^_^
13700KF 5870Mhz
RAM 3110Mhz 32-33-32-32 2N
RTX 4090
Win11 22H2
Not as fast as I'd hoped for but looking through some scores people have inflated or deflated numbers as every draw call counts, and being down by even 50 draw calls can mean 3 fps, just look at post #178 :
Will post results soon. ^_^
13700KF 5870Mhz
RAM 3110Mhz 32-33-32-32 2N
RTX 4090
Win11 22H2
Not as fast as I'd hoped for but looking through some scores people have inflated or deflated numbers as every draw call counts, and being down by even 50 draw calls can mean 3 fps, just look at post #178 :
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So for Windows 11, there's some settings to try in various combos.
support.microsoft.com
www.elevenforum.com
The first one should be boosting frames for FO4 draw call test since it's in windowed mode?
Fixed the 11700 draw call test:
123.5 FPS
150.4 FPS
137 FPS AVG rounded up (136.95 FPS AVG)
Ratio 0.8211436170212766
After looking at the chart, dual rank DDR4 isn't really there at the top which doesn't make sense. That's an extra 5-8% of free performance gain.
Optimizations for windowed games in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support
How to improve gaming on your Windows 11 PC by making use of the optimization for windowed games settings.
support.microsoft.com
Turn On or Off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling in Windows 11 Tutorial
This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows 11. Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling enables more efficient GPU scheduling between applications by reducing latency and improving video output performance. Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling...
www.elevenforum.com
The first one should be boosting frames for FO4 draw call test since it's in windowed mode?
Fixed the 11700 draw call test:
123.5 FPS
150.4 FPS
137 FPS AVG rounded up (136.95 FPS AVG)
Ratio 0.8211436170212766
After looking at the chart, dual rank DDR4 isn't really there at the top which doesn't make sense. That's an extra 5-8% of free performance gain.
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Well, probably last update from me, I don't think I can squeeze out much more. A bit of a suicide run on the CPU side, but hey...
13600K @5.7GHz, E cores disabled
2x16GB DDR4 @4200MHz 16-22-20-32 Gear 1 (it's a Hynix DJR kit, can't go lower than that).
13600K @5.7GHz, E cores disabled
2x16GB DDR4 @4200MHz 16-22-20-32 Gear 1 (it's a Hynix DJR kit, can't go lower than that).
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Might be because DDR5 has relatively poor latencies. But we might also be hitting the limits of the engine too??
Edit!!
BTW,you made a typo or two in result three. I would also imagine the DDR5 clockspeed would be doubled?
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My OC is done. This is my daily driver OC of 5.72ghz. I can go 5.8 or maybe 5.9ghz, but I prefer to stay on safer side.
As expected, ram speed matters lot more in FO4 vs Oblivion. I only got SR ram and it can't clock ultra high without compromises.
Some of the extra stuff I posted from the other threads that are relevant to FO4.
CPU: 13600kf 5.72ghz/5.018ghz ring, 2x8GB 3813 16-15-8-13-20-1T, 3080ti
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My OC is done. This is my daily driver OC of 5.72ghz. I can go 5.8 or maybe 5.9ghz, but I prefer to stay on safer side.
As expected, ram speed matters lot more in FO4 vs Oblivion. I only got SR ram and it can't clock ultra high without compromises.
Some of the extra stuff I posted from the other threads that are relevant to FO4.
CPU: 13600kf 5.72ghz/5.018ghz ring, 2x8GB 3813 16-15-8-13-20-1T, 3080ti
Have you got links to those other threads? I actually did some timeruns when I had my Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 5700X with my modded game(400+ mods) but never got around to uploading them.
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Ahh, I just meant my Oblivion benching threads. I have a little bit more I might post in those threads, specifically Oblivion stutter test now with 30 passes each (5600x vs 13600kf vs 13600kf + DXVK). + I just posted some new charts in those threads (some of which are not FO4 related).
BTW,if you look at the main chart,I tested a Ryzen 7 3700X with different RAM speeds,a Ryzen 7 5700X and a Core i5 10400. The Core i5 10400F with 2666MHZ DDR4 was basically matching my old Ryzen 7 3700X with 3600CL16 RAM! It makes me think,that the Core i5 10400 with the RAM set to 3200MHZ would probably match my Ryzen 7 5700X!
So I think for Fallout 4 and Oblivion,something like a Core i5 12400F with decent RAM and the TDP unlocked,would make the ideal entry level CPU for these games.
There you go:
My OC is done. This is my daily driver OC of 5.72ghz. I can go 5.8 or maybe 5.9ghz, but I prefer to stay on safer side.
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I remember these Techspot charts lol. I dunno where they tested, but I remember people screaming RAM DOESN'T MATTER! And even in Overclock.net in overclocking thread for RPL, I've had people say or tell me, 'why are you OCing? CPU perf doesn't even matter for games'.
I think reducing shadow draw distance to medium values fDirShadowDistance=3000 rather than 20000, iDirShadowSplits=2 rather than 3 helps a lot for slower cpus. There's also the Shadow Boost mod on Nexus which can dynamically lower shadow draw distance, though I don't think it touches idireshadowsplits. Corvega was an early meme in terms of performance, but Faneuil Hall's perf is driven in large part by shadow detail/distance.
7800x3d is going to be so interesting for FO4. I might wait for Arrow Lake or Zen 5 3d, and then the improvements ought to be massive again. When I saw 55-83% increase in perf in games, the numbers looked like fan fiction BS. But with bench results from so many people for Oblivion and FO4 all showing larger than life gains, I had to believe the gains are far larger than reviews show. 7800x3d's not going to be massively behind RPL in general single thread perf, so it doesn't have my issue with 5800x3d either. Will perf live up to expectations or did zen4 already took some of those gains with the front end changes? Will they price it well? We'll find out!
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Btw I think the color coding for my new CPU is wrong.
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