Fallout: New Vegas

Semiskimmed said:
see, most of that went right over my head so its not that new player friendly is it.
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Noob friendly != support for people who are crap at the game :p

Though I was brought up on FO/FO2 so maybe I was more au fait with the levelling/skill level system. But still, I can't see how it could be described as un-user-friendly :p

Have you turned the difficulty down whilst you get started?
 
i think its left on the default difficulty.
cheers for the info btw, ive got out of megaton and enjoyed the game up through the bit where you have to get to the train station but i found it seriously hard going though, often getting smashed.
ive just got off the big boat thing with a quest to get to vault 112 is it? so i tried going and just got a megamutant hit me 3 times and i was brownbread :(

i think youve cleared up one of the gripes i had, the enemy levels, theyre all the same as you? thats somethign cleared up for me i guess. i suppose i should just spend some more time in game scavenging and running away from enemies instead of trying to kill them? didnt realise it was such a big part of the game though tbh
 
You wandered to Rivet City already then? Well that effectively skips the first part of the main quest, though that quest itself is pretty trivial, it just depends on what you run into on the way.

Its not so much running away, more avoiding some fights you'll struggle on. It is unfortunately a rough way to learn since the only way to know what you can't handle is to die to it if you don't know the enemy strengths and weaknesses. There are plenty of encounters you can't do till you get better weapons or better skills/perks (or cheaper tactics). I mean if you really want a place to start off you should go to the school near Megaton or the SuperMart when Moira tells you to. If you can't handle the Raiders in there then you need better gear or your char type just isn't good enough to handle that sort of encounter yet. Nothing to be ashamed of... on the FWE alt starts i tried to go through the school as a small guns sneak guy at a low level and got my ass handed to me, i did it on a power armoured brotherhood outcast and stormed the place.
 
yeah have cleared the minimart and the school now, they werent too bad actually. did enjoy them. i must need to just get stuck into it more and not take it so trivially.
i cant remember what att. points are where atm either but will read up on those a lot more.
 
Unfortunately in true Bethesda style they made Charisma useless and Intel gives extra skill points so... Charisma = 1, Intelligence = 9/10 (as you can pickup the +1 Intel bobblehead easily) are pretty much certain. The rest just depend on how you want to spread them around.
 
Evilsod said:
Unfortunately in true Bethesda style they made Charisma useless and Intel gives extra skill points so... Charisma = 1, Intelligence = 9/10 (as you can pickup the +1 Intel bobblehead easily) are pretty much certain. The rest just depend on how you want to spread them around.
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But Bethesda ****ed intelligence last time by making dialogue options depend on charisma instead of intelligence like the old fallouts.


intelligence = give you smarter dialogue choices

Chraisma (and speach) = likley hood they would like you/believe you (also how many party members)


Bethesda made it

Intelligence for stats

high Charisma = even if you have int of 1 like a tin of beans you can still talk about advanced science because apparently being a smooth talker is all you need to understand quantum mechanics.
 
Tefal said:
But Bethesda ****ed intelligence last time by making dialogue options depend on charisma instead of intelligence like the old fallouts.


intelligence = give you smarter dialogue choices

Chraisma (and speach) = likley hood they would like you/believe you (also how many party members)


Bethesda made it

Intelligence for stats

high Charisma = even if you have int of 1 like a tin of beans you can still talk about advanced science because apparently being a smooth talker is all you need to understand quantum mechanics.
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Well they always oversimplified it a bit but i thought most the 'intelligent' answers either required a high intelligence, or high repair/science/medicine or whatever.
 
Evilsod said:
Well they always oversimplified it a bit but i thought most the 'intelligent' answers either required a high intelligence, or high repair/science/medicine or whatever.
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in the old fallouts if you had low intelligence you could never come up with the more complicated answers but in fallout 3 you could have int 1 and still put forth a very complicated argument using big words where as in the old fallouts with int of 1 or 2 your choices would have been

"ughh, uggg" or "me like bones \o/"
 
Tefal said:
in the old fallouts if you had low intelligence you could never come up with the more complicated answers but in fallout 3 you could have int 1 and still put forth a very complicated argument using big words where as in the old fallouts with int of 1 or 2 your choices would have been

"ughh, uggg" or "me like bones \o/"
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Fair point. You can have 1 intelligence and still reach 100 Medicine and Science :p

Just like how my every char has 1 Charisma because its useless... though my Big Guns char still has 100 Barter.
 
Although I really enjoyed fallout 3, I prefer the way stats and character creation was handled in 1 and 2. Being able to put intelligence as 1 and still gaining loads of points is just wrong
 
Rhys-M said:
Although I really enjoyed fallout 3, I prefer the way stats and character creation was handled in 1 and 2. Being able to put intelligence as 1 and still gaining loads of points is just wrong
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Indeed. But then thats vanilla for you. At least FWE let you customise (to some extent) how intelligence worked for skill points so you could be incredibly harsh if you wanted.
 
Would you all suggest this is a game to buy on release day? I really enjoyed Fallout 3, but with Obsidian (i think thats how you spell it), developing New Vegas, i am worried that it will be a short game game and may 'lack' content like they did in KOTOR 2
 
krisab said:
Would you all suggest this is a game to buy on release day? I really enjoyed Fallout 3, but with Obsidian (i think thats how you spell it), developing New Vegas, i am worried that it will be a short game game and may 'lack' content like they did in KOTOR 2
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Wait to see the reviews I guess. However, even lacking content and with the bugs, KOTOR2 was still a worthy purchase on release.
 
krisab said:
Would you all suggest this is a game to buy on release day? I really enjoyed Fallout 3, but with Obsidian (i think thats how you spell it), developing New Vegas, i am worried that it will be a short game game and may 'lack' content like they did in KOTOR 2
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The pre-orde items are nothing much, so you wont lose anything if your not pre-ordering. Should get some good user reviews on the 22/23/24 and if it seems like a good one, just grab it off steam over the weekend :)
 
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