Fifa officials including vice president Jeffrey Webb arrested, Blatter getting it at last.

At the end of the day, blatter got elected by means of a democratic process.

Are we going to say that because we didn't get the result we as the minority wanted we will no longer support democracy. Kinda like a kid throwing their toys out of a pram? There were no brown shirts or men with machine guns forcing the voters which way to vote. It seemed like an open and fair election process.

What is more corrupt than trying to oust a democratically elected leader who has support from nearly 65% of all other nations? Why don't we be honest and say we only support the system that gives us a result we want?

You forgot to ask how he gets those countries to vote for him. He buys votes by countless, generous, uncontrolled handouts to them. Don't forget all the nods and winks we also don't get to see. That is his way of manipulating the election. The only democratic part of the whole process is the physical insertion of a voting slip into the ballot box.
 
Also yes fifa redistributes the wealth from europe to some other continents. I think this is really the problem, UEFA wants more money and perhaps they know blatter won't support that Wheras africa and asia and s.america are happy with more money.

Always follow the money!
 
Also yes fifa redistributes the wealth from europe to some other continents. I think this is really the problem, UEFA wants more money and perhaps they know blatter won't support that Wheras africa and asia and s.america are happy with more money.

Always follow the money!

Money isn't a problem. The problem is that FIFA has built a warchest which Blatter uses to indirectly bribe nations.

Also UEFA world cup slots keep getting reduced. Blatter mentioned that Oceania will now get a full slot. I can gurantee that will be coming from UEFA.

FIFA could have used that money to reduce the cost burden Brazil and South Africa faced when hosting.
 
4 more years of Blatter. Well if the authorities don't get him for corruption maybe, at 79, he won't see Russia 2018.

I think he will. Its all part of his deal with Satan. :p

Either way, when he goes someone more crooked will replace him. That way the money will continue to flow into FIFA's coffers which is what the money men in FIFA (who have the real power) want. The President is just a figurehead who does as they are told & takes the flak when the poo hits the fan. :mad:
 
Yeah blatter is trying to spread the consolidated base of football.

Hm so how would that work? Countries bid for votes and for subsidised world cup bids to be able to host? I'd prefer the money to go into the development of football not the hosting of a one time event.

The wc bids should be based around a 10 year plan of development for and after the WC showing how the stadia will be utilised, how the revenues and funds will go into grass roots football.

not on how many fully ac conditioned stadium will be built then demolished or left to rot . That way you bring development and sustainability to a nation via the world cup and not debt. If all you bring is debt ypur bid should be rejected.
 
Gut reaction: everyone will whine for a bit, nothing will change.

At some point he'll die, and then something else might happen. Before that it seems a bit unlikely though.
 
It's no surprise that he was re-elected. They all knew about the corruption anyway, the other day didn't come as a surprise to FIFA members.

I just hope the whole house of cards comes crumbling down, form the top to the very bottom.
 
Either Blatter knew what's been going on and was complicit, or he didn't know and is incompetent. If he was the head of a multinational business who was caught up in these allegations he would have resigned immediately or been fired.

Sadly in the world of Mr Blatter, such a statement, or an allegation of there of, is spoken to the worlds media as a 'personal attack'

Given that as a solid base to move forward.....

For me Germany should take the lead, pull out of the 2018 as the defending world champions... any attempt at hold it as a credible competition would be a farce.

The whole things a bloody farce any how.
 
Not really surprised and there will not be any boycott believe me..its just all lip service until it happens. He was voted in my nations who hate america/UK and the West. Unless the FBI has evidence on Sepp nothing will happen to him...
 
Not sure how credible it is, but rumours that France and Spain voted for Blatter.

That means a boycott is very unlikely.
 
All I'm going to say is that the west is very vocal about upholding democracy. But only when the result suits them.

If not they will force action to try to fix a new more, accommodating result!!
 
All I'm going to say is that the west is very vocal about upholding democracy. But only when the result suits them.

If not they will force action to try to fix a new more, accommodating result!!

It is a democratic process which gives tiny islands the same voting power as England.

It wouldn't be so bad if FIFA took a hard line with corruption. But Blatter has ignored it since 1998 and even now refuses to admit it is endemic wuthin FIFA.

Given that he has $1bn+ in FIFA reserves to draw upon, he can appease smaller bations where even relatively small amounts of money can easily influence.

It would be like having general elections where every town and city, regardless of size had a single seat.
 
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So what should be the basis? Per population? Per wealth? Why not just change the democratic system if you don't get the result you want?


Remind me how seats are allocated in GB again, do we have proportional representation yet?
 
So what should be the basis? Per population? Per wealth? Why not just change the democratic system if you don't get the result you want?


Remind me how seats are allocated in GB again, do we have proportional representation yet?


Seats roughly represent electorate size.

As for what it should be, a sensible measure can be created. A good measure could be number of football clubs within the country. I'm sure there are other ideas.

What we have now is absurd. Cayman Islands equals the vote of the USA?

I have no idea what the end result will be. It will however be less corrupt and democratic.

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Proportional representation is an electorate issue where you have tens millions of voters aggregated into a few hundred seats. This isn't relevant to FIFA votes unless you start polling individuals.
 
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One good change that has happened is that world cup votes will now have 200+ voters rather than now shown to be corrupt ExCo that made the previous decisions. An ExCo Blatter was leading.

It should in theory be harder to bribe such a large number of voters. But again you need a FIFA leadership that will come down hard on corruption as it is still possible to influence large numbers of small nations.
 
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If the Americans find that Blatter was involved, I'd stake my life on the fact he's so deep into it, and want to charge him, though Switzerland wouldn't extradite, at least he wouldn't be able to go and watch matches in countries with a extradition treaty with the US.
 
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