Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn

I think they will be all pretty balanced over all tbh. These are only closed beta stats as well. Might be better waiting to see stats for Phase 4 as there will be many more players then.

Too many French on Moogle for me though :p ;)
 
I guess everyone is in this phase now? cos I had another email reminding me of what my beta key was and saying not to miss out
 
I got an E-mail today saying there's going to be a test from the 10th July to the 15th - not sure if it's for the right region though since it was written in Japanese (if the tests are even running at different times for different regions that is) .
 
anyone else get a beta email in japanese? if you did it says this...
※ this email, Final Fantasy XIV: I have sent towards the nascent Eoruzea β tester. If you do not have any idea who the content, we ask you to discard this mail.
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Thank you for participating in newborn Eoruzea β test: Final Fantasy XIV.
Next time, I will let you know the test dates of β test Phase 3.

■ test schedule
The 15th (Wed) 18:00 July 10 July 2013 (Mon) 18:00

※ with a test of Monday 15 July, and exits the test phase β 3. The agenda of the β test phase 4, I will let you know at a later date.

For further details, please check the following pages.


※ If you have not done so already (registration of the registration code) participation procedure of β test, please check here first.


Final Fantasy XIV: active participation to the nascent Eoruzea β test, Thank you for your contribution to the feedback.

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Square Enix Final Fantasy XIV: newborn Eoruzea β test Secretariat
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※ If you have any questions, please use the SQUARE ENIX Support Center for this and other mail.
※ This e-mail address is a post-only. Please note that you can not you answer even if you reply to this email.
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Nimdok said:
Yeah that's the same one I got :p
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I thought it was a scam email because they don't use proper links... and it wasn't English lol...

Companies are always telling people to be careful of url's because what they say isn't always the address when you mouse over them...

yet SQ decided to use some weird website that shortens the links so no one can tell where they go without clicking on them...
 
So what's everyone's thoughts on the game now that we've had quite awhile to settle down with it? I know its only beta, but from my experience the retail game will be nearly identical to what we've been playing.

I'm worried about what the game can offer outside of questing. At first I hammered the duty finder, played all of the dungeons repeatedly and was kinda disappointed by the lackof depth to the combat system. I have a legacy character at level 50 and from messing around with it and hearing from friends, it doesn't seem like it gets better at higher levels.

Also I noticed a distinct eerie silence come over the server when the duty finder was implemented. I was worried about it affecting the social aspect of the game, and from what I experienced it did just that. Sorting out parties, meeting up with people and getting to know them made a huge difference before entering dungeons. The DF seemed to do away with that and hardly no one wanted to team up the old fashioned way anymore.

The game's got a lot of promise and I want it to do well. I'm just worried by the lack of depth in some areas. I also think the duty finder needs either tweaking or just doing away with it altogether.

I'm scared about posting anything negative or constructive at all on the beta forums. There's a league of resident fascists :p
 
To be honest I got bored of it extremely quickly, I can't see myself picking it up anymore. I may have done without subscriptions, but it's not interesting enough to me to justify a monthly cost.
 
You pretty much hit the nail on the head for me eggyoke :p I recently went back to Rift after a very long break (I started playing in the Beta and Early Access, then for some months following) and FFXIV is feeling very watered down when compared to what other MMOs offer outside of quests and the depth they have (but I guess you could say most have been released for longer if you don't count 1.0). I think I'm going to try and stick with it for as long as I can - I really like the game world, the classes and the lore (also it's Final Fantasy) so I hope it will develop into something even better over time. In the past I've always told myself that I'm going to stick with the next MMO rather than constantly hopping from game to game, but I often times end up getting bored or move game again because my friends left whatever game we were playing at the time. It feels like I miss out on things when I move away from an MMO and then come back a year or so later, so this time I'm really going to try to grin and bear it for as long as I can.
 
Yeah I hear ya. After thinking about it for awhile, I think it comes down to what you expect from an MMO and how you see the genre.

I'm from the old Everquest, SWG, FFXI camp and see the genre from that point of view; a real sense of danger and loss if things go wrong, a sense of time passing, communicating all the time with others to overcome something, tactically managed combat and a drawn-out pace to the flow of the game. Something as a gamer you approach with a completely different mindset than a single-player game.

FFXIV doesn't feel like an MMO to me. It's more like a controlled single-player game but with multi-player, instanced dungeons and an ever present chat-box. It's a fun little roller-coaster when you first get going, but just like SWTOR, WoW and LOTR, it comes and gets old within a couple of weeks.
 
I don't know Nimdok, once a game feels boring same ole same ole, it's very hard to stick with it, and to be honest nor would I want to, that's beingmy/our problem of late finding a game that we can play for a few years, getting to a point where I don't believe that will happen again, even GW2 which was not that bad died very fast.

I still believe these games are struggling or dying is due to them not being social, think the game I'm holding out some hope for is WS.

Time will tell.

Cheers for adding us to the guild list, we will be on Moogle server.
 
eggyoke said:
Yeah I hear ya. After thinking about it for awhile, I think it comes down to what you expect from an MMO and how you see the genre.

I'm from the old Everquest, SWG, FFXI camp and see the genre from that point of view; a real sense of danger and loss if things go wrong, a sense of time passing, communicating all the time with others to overcome something, tactically managed combat and a drawn-out pace to the flow of the game. Something as a gamer you approach with a completely different mindset than a single-player game.

FFXIV doesn't feel like an MMO to me. It's more like a controlled single-player game but with multi-player, instanced dungeons and an ever present chat-box. It's a fun little roller-coaster when you first get going, but just like SWTOR, WoW and LOTR, it comes and gets old within a couple of weeks.
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Yeah, I think due to having played MMOs for the better part of 10+ years I've come to expect something on a larger scale (or at least more of a sense of being in an online ever-persistent world), or at least something that may not start off as anything particularly great but develops into a better game over time.

Whether it's because more and more MMO developers are trying to cater to the Casual/Facebook crowd more these days I don't know, but as you say there just isn't that same sense of danger or urgency. Sure I don't have as much time to play games as I used to, but I still miss that feeling of community and having to group together to tackle quests or other content. That was one of the things that drew me into MMOs, as well as the planning and control needed to successfully complete a raid or dungeon, as opposed to say a Single Player RPG where everything is intended to be solod and you can just faceroll your way through everything (I know there is strategy involved in some Single Player RPGs but it's just not at the same level of coordination).

So far it's not feeling like much of an MMO to me either - for me it's largely because the world feels so "disconnected" in that it's split up into zones, and I'm just not getting that same sense of scale or that I'm really in an online world. It could just be the early zones that feel like that though, so I'll reserve judgement for later content. As it stands I'm expecting this game to be another "roller-coaster", but I hope I get proven wrong :D

Nemeses said:
I don't know Nimdok, once a game feels boring same ole same ole, it's very hard to stick with it, and to be honest nor would I want to, that's beingmy/our problem of late finding a game that we can play for a few years, getting to a point where I don't believe that will happen again, even GW2 which was not that bad died very fast.

I still believe these games are struggling or dying is due to them not being social, think the game I'm holding out some hope for is WS.

Time will tell.

Cheers for adding us to the guild list, we will be on Moogle server.
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That's the same problem I've had with most MMOs - it starts to feel stale, or I lose that enthusiasm I first had for it. I do find it very hard to go back to a game once I've lost that "spark", and I do try to revisit ones I got bored with in the past to see if I can make it further but it rarely lasts for longer than a week before I give up. I really enjoyed Guild Wars 2 and thought it would finally be a current gen MMO I could play for years on end, but once I hit 80 I just became incredibly bored with the game, and all my IRL friends quit once reaching the same point so I struggled to find reasons to stay.

As someone mentioned previously in one of these discussions (I think it was Xinn), the inclusion of LFG tools seems to be one of the main killers of that feeling of community and social interaction with other players. Nowadays it just comes down to "Oh I need to do X dungeon, instead of finding other players and manually grouping up to tackle content, I'll just put myself in the queue and be done with it and the dungeon in a few minutes". While in a sense the tools can be a godsend when I'm pressed for time and can't find any other players, I really do miss finding groups of people I can get along with and have a laugh with, do a dungeon and then carry on doing stuff together afterwards like more dungeons or just generally levelling together. It may seem like a little thing but it really does just add a whole other layer of immersion and feeling of being in an online game.

No problem :D will update it with the server details too.
 
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Yeah while finding players can be tough without a dungeon finder like tool I honestly prefer it without.

I had I think 1 good group when using dungeon finder while it was available. Usually it was either tanks that just full stop didn't have a clue (You'd expect they know how to play the class after 30-35 levels), Archers that all seem to play WoW (nuke nuke nuke, pull agro, run away from the tank so he can't regain agro), THM's that spam Blizzard II on 2 mobs, PUG's rolling need on a caster ring (for his caster) and then need on something else (that he needed for his level 50 MRD, lvl 28 item), or LNC that just oh so love to wake up every mob that is clearly CC'd with big ass "Chains" symbol on its head and then attack the marked mobs 3 > 2 > 1.

While I will certainly play open Beta and the free 2 weeks at live from 1.0 account I still haven't decided if I'll sub or not. I loved the XI community but the anonymity of none "guild" content in XIV just ruins it. At least if your on the same server as somebody else in your group you can't act like a **** and expect to get away with it.

Edit: Then again having seen these: http://imgur.com/a/DPD65

Hnnnnngggggggggg
 
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Those are some seriously tasty looking screenshots :D

Haven't tried the Duty Finder yet, but you described almost exactly what I imagined it would be like, sadly :/ oh well, hopefully some more friends/OcUKers will get the game and I can group with them instead of PuGs who'll be douchebags just because they can get away with it and suffer no repercussions.

Anyone planning on playing the next phase starting tomorrow?
 
Nimdok said:
Those are some seriously tasty looking screenshots :D

Haven't tried the Duty Finder yet, but you described almost exactly what I imagined it would be like, sadly :/ oh well, hopefully some more friends/OcUKers will get the game and I can group with them instead of PuGs who'll be douchebags just because they can get away with it and suffer no repercussions.

Anyone planning on playing the next phase starting tomorrow?
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ooo didnt realise it started tomorrow! I set my account up last phase but couldnt get a chance to play it so i assume i have access to this phase coming?

Ta
 
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