Fishing - Anybody doing any ?

where abouts did you go fishing and what bait did you try?

:D Tried a 7 hour stint today, squid, sandal, lug, sardine oil + breadcrumb slick as the tide came in. So nothing.. will give you more info over email :D Wind was "interesting" today :)

Father-in-law has a load of beach casting gear, so has given me one of his old fibreglass 420cm (13'7") beach casters, 3 piece, fixed spool setup, can cast 3.75-7.0oz. Bit heavy at 819g, a cheap starter rod but it's free and works, with a glass action it's forgiving. Also has given me a tripod too.. so the marina should be interesting :D
 
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Also got myself a couple of daiwa minnows (31g) too for a bit of spinning action once spring arrives :)

theres a chap on the fishing forum who had 50+ bass on lures from the reef that runs for several miles from just east of the marina,
it'd be good to have a walk along there spinning as you go
EDIT: just looked on google maps and its called the undercliff walk
 
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theres a chap on the fishing forum who had 50+ bass on lures from the reef that runs for several miles from just east of the marina,
it'd be good to have a walk along there spinning as you go
EDIT: just looked on google maps and its called the undercliff walk

yup.. I've always wondered about that .. you need a decent cast, depends on the tide I suppose too. Lots of dog walkers on the actual path but it can access the water side .. there's a couple of sea ramps.. it's about 50-60m cast to get over into the deeper stuff looking at google.
 
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either the marina main car park or there's parking by the east arm up on the main road next to the Roedean cafe,
a quick google search says its free parking, other than that i think you need to head a lil further east to Saltdean or Peacehaven
one place i went to have a look at and ive still not got back down there to fish.. Cuckmere haven, i looked at the place at low tide and there was plenty of reef you can walk out on,
another good looking place further to the east is Tidemills.
i think 2016 should be the year we check these places out
 
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I just need to find some spinners suitable for my rod as I'm not buying another.

15'9" beach caster, I was spinning with is last year and it was okay. Need some heavy duty spinners :p

Yep.. only one other rod I'd consider .. a 2-4oz (56g-114g) bass rod about 11'6-12'4 size. The uptide rod works but it's 9'6 and casts 5-10oz.. (141g to 284g :eek:), bass rod could (at a push) be used on a boat too for some long distance fun..

What rating is the rod? I've seen some 100+g spinners out there whilst in france but the reef would be a killer if they're sinkers..

If you have a flattie rod.. 1-2oz.. lots more options including floaters.. (the spinning rod I have is 1-2oz)
 
Just looking around I found what I was using in the west country and managed to catch a small bass in the surf 110g dexter wedge, I've ordered 2 x 110g and 2 x 80g and might have a look at Cuckmere Haven
 
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That's my little uptide and spinning rod.. the arrow shows casting position and touch down.. the distance from the tripod to the left corner near the lifting bridge is 240m! So I've measured about 100m on the cast - that same weird water line appears on the satellite (that goes from the near side corner of the bridge to the corner of the port on the left of the image).

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Here's the two.. with the new reel :D

The google maps location with distances:
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Nice :D

I looked .. my french beginner special "Caperlan Set Surf 420" is.. €35 new :D quality engineering :D I've used it at the beach and does a decent job (feels a bit weird coming from the world of shorter rods). Only thing is I think I can cast as far.. with the uptide at the moment.. need more practice :D

Decathlon is large in france, they have a "Pecheur" site owned by Decathlon.. There's a massive isle of lures in the Dunkerque Decathlon. They had more shelf space for led weights and hooks than most angling shops have for sea fishing..

The other site I was beach fishing as high tide came in.. was here:
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The tide comes right to the starting measuring point. I was spinning with a floating lure as the tide came in.. you need low tide for the deep channel (shown at low tide in the google image). However the father-in-law can't walk far due to a dodgy knee so going on the beach is a safety risk for him.
 
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my Bass rod is far too heavy for spinning/lure fishing, just 15 mins of chucking mackerel feathers ends up with sore arm,
imo best rod for me would be a carp rod, 12ft 2.5lb test curve, you could flick it about all day as they are so light these days
 
my Bass rod is far too heavy for spinning/lure fishing, just 15 mins of chucking mackerel feathers ends up with sore arm,
imo best rod for me would be a carp rod, 12ft 2.5lb test curve, you could flick it about all day as they are so light these days

The uptide is ~510g IIRC, the 8ft spinning rod a mere 224g. The shim hyper loop is 320g.. the spheros 6000 is 480g with 300 yards of braid loaded.

Can hold and cast the spinning rod (probably about 580g total with 300 yards of 20lb braid) all day although I feel it the next day!

The uptide being 990g total fully loaded is something I can hold for a couple of hours, but casting is hard work - considering you're looking at 5oz each cast..

The french beginner special (I got free :D) is 819g by itself!! That's way too heavy with a reel (and the length means it's tip heavy) for use as a lure rod.

A top notch spinning outfit (for bass) is about 150g for rod and about 200g for reel... but like Macca I'm not going to fork out for that if my little 8ft will do the job!
 
http://www.worldseafishing.com/lure-fishing/spinning-bass/

Was a good read although I'm struggling to get my head around this statement and what it means

Boat fishing probably lends more to this as the tide plays a greater role than shore bait fishing. It's todo with the action and speed of the lure in the water.

First the action and speed of the lure is only partly defined by the speed of your retrieve through the water. The direction and flow of the tide also plays a part.

Imagine a stream.

If you held the lure in the water by holding the snood, the flow of water over it would cause it to exhibit it's designed action (spin/wobble/flitter/dive).

If you spooled out the line at a slow rate down stream, the flow speed over the lure is now less, so the action of the lure is softer (possibly not at all) and the lure itself looks like a fish going down stream (or not able to keep up with the flow of water).

If you then pulled the line back in, the lure is now travelling up stream the flow of water is faster over the lure than the surrounding stream water and the lure will increase it's action/flutter/drive.

Now if you did the same by releasing the lure up stream, the lure behaves differently again. As the lure moves down stream (in relation to your hand) the lure would first behave slowly (as it's travelling down stream), then as it arcs down stream it will start action until it's going at the speed that the stream water speed will drive the action. So you an see keeping the lure line fixed causes a dynamic movement as the lure passes the angler and the line starts pulling tight and the lure starts feeling more and more water flow over it (until it's fully down stream).

Now comes the complicated bit ;) retrieving.

Repeating the experiment again but this time with more line and retrieving at a constant speed the following occurs.
1. upstream of the angler the line will need to be retrieved at least at the speed of the flow of water, once taught the line will start driving the action of the lure.
2. as the lure approaches the angler and arcs around, the stream starts adding it's flow in addition to the flow caused by the retrieve (actually a bit more complicated but ..)
3. when down stream you now have both the maximum flow of the water AND the flow caused by the retrieve.

If point 3 is too much for the lure.. it over behaves, appears like a deranged animal and looks unnatural. The imitated species may not even be able to keep up with the flow of water in reality so dragging it seems unrealistic. Also for wobble/flutter they appear to not just wobble but really behave violently.

So if you substitute tide for the stream flow above.. working against the tide means the lure is being downtide of you and the retrieve is pulling heavily through it causing the lure to overreact and spooking the fish.

It's possible to let line out but in the end you'll need to collect it..

For some lures the line keeps it off the bottom and in the flow (by the fact that the line is actually in an upward direction (boats and deep rock marks are good examples). So if you have a heavier lure and you want it to not sink as fast then you need to raise the rod high.. if you have a floater then keeping the rod low means it will dive and not 'skip' across the water (although for plugs this may be desired).

Also from the text it indicates that the sandeels/bait fish aren't strong uptide swimmers but seek out cover in strong tide.. then when the tidal flow weakens they come out to play.. same for larger fish at wreck marks (they go hunting further afield in slack tide but then hug the wreck during main tidal movement to reduce energy used).


It's for this reason I got the lower ratio Spheros (4.6:1) rather the Saratoga (5.7:1) for the 6000 size. The slow retrieve makes it easier to imitate with the flow for lures when you have tide. At the same time the lower gear ratio makes it more cranky for dealing with the more powerful offshore fish like tope, rays, conger, cod and ling.

I've caught conger.. so my next targets are: Tope, Ling, Bass, Rays, Pollack and flat fish (I've not caught one of them pesky things yet).

It's funny - in the port pic above.. I was using a 3oz grip lead + lug bait on the little spinning rod - worked really well. Not as far as the 31g minnow, but far enough for beach bait throwing too. In the end you start paying for diminishing returns on the blank so getting a 11ft 1-4oz lure/bait casting rocket would probably result in an expensive japanese blank..
 
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best way to see how far your casting is to stand in a field or beach and give it a good whack,
then walk to your lead whilst reeling in and pace out the yardage (im quite good at that being a ground worker :p )
i can hit upto ~110 yards with just a lead with my zziplex powertex bass rod, so with bait as well im looking at upto 100yrds and about 85-90 yards with my beach caster with bait
but that'd be full whack, normally you try and protect your bait a bit so knock another 10% off = 90 yards bass rod and 75 yards beachcaster
 
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Just heard my father-in-law just caught & returned a Bass at the port location in the pictures... smallish thing but still grrr.... using the lure I suggested he buy lol :( #grumpycat

Think someone should make a GPS lead that can bluetooth to a mobile phone app.. cast then the impact makes it taketh gps location.. retrieve and sync the distance..

Also helped the 30+mph wind was from behind on both days ;)
 
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