Five-year-old boy lives as girl in youngest case of Gender Identity Disorder
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You have a doctorate in psychology?
My point was, that anyone can call themselves a psychologist. Whilst I've done psychology modules, no I do not have a doctorate in psychology.
FWIW, I generally agree with you on a lot of these issues (especially ones that the OcUK majority find wrong - namely sexism, feminism and the like) and I agree that GID is a plasuable situation (I don't want to say illness). However, I don't think that it can be proven with enough certainity in a child of this age and mental development. I feel that labelling a child of that age with such a condition will prove to be harmful in the longterm rather than beneficial. I'm particularly keen to stop the seemingly increasing move to label people just for the sake of labelling them.
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No, they have already diagnosed him, schools have changed, parents have decided and everyone is pushing values onto him, from that diagnosis. It is far from just monitoring. Such behaviour will influence his own.
Why does he need unisex toilets. Makes no sense. He's getting attention and people are pushing values onto him at a young and impressionable age.
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Not reverse, but postpone the making of any "decision".
Even a kid playing around with his mates sexually doesn't mean he's gay, the same way having a girlfriend when very young doesn't mean you're going to turn out straight! The point I'm trying to make is that no one expects those things to cement anything in your life, like seems to have happened in this scenario. This child is too young to be making decisions like this, that's what parents are for.
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No, if the kid has already decided he prefers boys over girls then I don't have an issue with it (Points to the way Alan Turing was treat)
Its the fact the kid has been watching Dora the explorer and thinking that is the way he wants to dress, and his parents not explaining to him that he is a boy and a boy doesnt wear dresses (unless a cage fighter in drag
) massively different to his sexualityNo, if the kid has already decided he prefers boys over girls then I don't have an issue with it (Points to the way Alan Turing was treat)
Its the fact the kid has been watching Dora the explorer and thinking that is the way he wants to dress, and his parents not explaining to him that he is a boy and a boy doesnt wear dresses (unless a cage fighter in drag
Why can't a boy wear a dress?
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ok, let the kid wear a dress, go through school, then high school, and see if they dont get bullied
You're wearing blinkers because you're seeing this as an attack on homosexuality.
Whilst adults may sexualise children, children themselves don't experience sexual attraction.
So what would you rather, the kid be forced to not wear female style clothes and be miserable? It sounds like as soon as the kid either comes out of this phase he can and will be supported by all, and if he decides not to, then a support structure is in place for that. It makes me really happy to see that it has been accepted by all and is hopefully a step in recognising the problems people with gender identity issues suffer.
Shock at parents not doing what kid wants.
If he only wants to eat chips. Should there parents let him. Otherwise he will be miserable?
After all he can decide later when if it not a phase.
Silly argument parents are there to decide and teach. Things like this should not be supported in the way it is.
And as someone says above, this is not an attack on homosexuality or anything like it.
It basic parenting.
Started at age of three. My mates child only wanted to wear super hero outfits at that age. Where ever he was.
If he only wants to eat chips. Should there parents let him. Otherwise he will be miserable?
After all he can decide later when if it not a phase.
Silly argument parents are there to decide and teach. Things like this should not be supported in the way it is.
And as someone says above, this is not an attack on homosexuality or anything like it.
It basic parenting.
Started at age of three. My mates child only wanted to wear super hero outfits at that age. Where ever he was.
You have a pro-gay agenda (I'm not passing judgement) and you're applying this to a scenario where it is inappropriate.
This is a child, not a gay man being forced to repress his homosexuality.
Fairly sure you can get in big trouble by claiming to be a Psychologist when you don't have the necessary academics or training to back it up, in the same way I can't advertise myself as a surgeon and start performing operations on people with 0 training.
Surely labelling the child male and forcing him to conform to gender biased roles is exactly the kind of labelling you would want to avoid, and instead have him diagnosed with GID and continue to monitor his feelings and actions based and allow the child to decide what he likes and doesn't.
How is wanting to be more female traditionally gender orientated harmful like refusing to eat correctly?
He wouldnt be the first child, boy or girl, to want to dress up as the other sex.
However, to then say "oh yes, this child has GID its now 100% certain he wants to be a girl", is just plain wrong, on so many levels. My son went around with a biscuit tin lid every waking moment of the day at one point pretending he was in a car, he would go ******* crazy if you took it off him.
Abnormal behavior in an adult, behavior that would have you sectioned, just being 5 to a 5 year old.
No, he's a child, growing up, and needing guidence. not pandering to.
However, to then say "oh yes, this child has GID its now 100% certain he wants to be a girl", is just plain wrong, on so many levels. My son went around with a biscuit tin lid every waking moment of the day at one point pretending he was in a car, he would go ******* crazy if you took it off him.
Abnormal behavior in an adult, behavior that would have you sectioned, just being 5 to a 5 year old.
No, he's a child, growing up, and needing guidence. not pandering to.
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I'm straight, I get offered a lot of money to do homosexual things on a weekly basis and turn it down because its not something I could bring myself to do for any kind of money, how do I have a pro-gay agenda?
I am simply arguing for what is right.
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I know nothing about the condition, except the rather obvious fact that one sex wishes it was the other. However, it does not excuse the fact that the kid is both too young to be sure on what he wants and also with him being labelled already as a transvestite. What if he grows out of it? The shame will probably lead on to more serious problems.
You claimed that boys don't wear dresses as some sort of factual 'thing'. Now you are saying they shouldn't because they get bullied?
I imagine a boy, in a dress, would be made quite welcome in a Waldorf school for example. And if the boy is getting bullied for his choice in attire, then it is a fault of the bullies and not the bullied. Why should someone curtail what they do, just because others get great pleasure from making him feel bad? Though, that's now made me think how bullying could be acceptable if you were a Utilitarianist.
Really?
Being pushed sexually, bullying and the like. There's loads of damage on it.
What do you think happens to kids learning process. When he's getting loads of attention and being pressurised by schools and parents to act a certain way. Your telling me you can't see the issue.