Forgot how bad job searching was :(

Delvis · 28 Aug 2009 at 12:47

Kraven said:
Good luck!

Thanks buddy

Delvis · 28 Aug 2009 at 16:48

Hm...Trying to think of what to put in a personal statement on some of the job sites...That differs from the stement on my CV

Kreeeee · 28 Aug 2009 at 16:57

I forgot to post back here... I got the job

Graduate job doing forensic computing for pwc, and it's pretty much my dream job.

Indy500 · 28 Aug 2009 at 17:20

Kreeeee said:
I forgot to post back here... I got the job

Graduate job doing forensic computing for pwc, and it's pretty much my dream job.

Congrats.

Just had an interview and technical assessment today with a managed services provider, there'll be a second after this if I'm successful (fingers crossed).

NickK · 1 Sep 2009 at 13:57

Just updated my CV and thought I'd see anyone thought this was a little pretentious:

Technical Product Manager, Acompany, location, UK — period here
Reporting to the Director of Product Management, X Business Unit

$10M industry award winning product; provided product and technical leadership to product teams internally and outsourced vendor.

Cross-functional team liaison. Identified, refined global market requirements through business development, product management and into production; drove trend analysis with central and global region CTOs shaping long term vision.

Planned technical roadmap to achieve delivery in demanding market timescales and budgets. Reduced costs to deliver greater sales flexibility with the value proposition.

Shaped product inline with portfolio strategy to deliver faster go-to-market of portfolio market requirements through it’s flexible business logic engine.

Collaborated with value proposition portfolio products to generate new offerings to capture additional market revenue resulting in a 400% growth in market share.

Guided global sales force during opportunity responses (RFI/RFQ); performed bespoke solution product validation and approval; streamlined presales interaction leading to accurate and faster responses; provided global presales training and collateral.

Reduced operational costs through optimisation of deployment and support activities.

Responsible for product quality; ensured product upheld company ISO quality certification.

Basically I want to show product management built from a technical product management role. In short the team comprised of a commercial product manager (money), technical product manager (everything else) and operation product manager (basically project manager). The team collaborates for virtually everything so the TPM ends up doing CPM/OPM work when needed anyway and everyone reports into the boss..

Does the quote sound ok?

Indy500 · 2 Sep 2009 at 14:11

NickK said:
Just updated my CV and thought I'd see anyone thought this was a little pretentious:

Basically I want to show product management built from a technical product management role. In short the team comprised of a commercial product manager (money), technical product manager (everything else) and operation product manager (basically project manager). The team collaborates for virtually everything so the TPM ends up doing CPM/OPM work when needed anyway and everyone reports into the boss..

Does the quote sound ok?

Seems fine to me, but then again I haven't worked in product management. Someone with the same experience as you may have a different opinion.

NickK · 2 Sep 2009 at 14:32

sr4470 said:
Seems fine to me, but then again I haven't worked in product management. Someone with the same experience as you may have a different opinion.

Gave it a night to think on it. I have a few small modifications but I think I'll go with that.

Nitefly · 7 Sep 2009 at 15:15

Well, it's my assessment centre tommorrow for another training contract with a regional firm. I haven't worked as hard at this one as for my previous one, but since they havn't set any tasks knowing what to work on has been perplexing. As such, I feel that I have done little preparation and I really hope it doesn't show me up. Fortuantly I have had work experience there so I might have an edge over other applicants when talking about the firm.

It's also worth £25k in sponsorship, so here's hoping eh?

Delvis · 7 Sep 2009 at 16:30

Nitefly said:
Well, it's my assessment centre tommorrow for another training contract with a regional firm. I haven't worked as hard at this one as for my previous one, but since they havn't set any tasks knowing what to work on has been perplexing. As such, I feel that I have done little preparation and I really hope it doesn't show me up. Fortuantly I have had work experience there so I might have an edge over other applicants when talking about the firm.

It's also worth £25k in sponsorship, so here's hoping eh?

Heres hoping indeed

Hopefully it favours in your way.

Amp34 · 7 Sep 2009 at 16:56

Sent off another dozen CV's to a mix of specialist recruiters and companies yesterday, so far only one reply from a recruiter with I assume a generic reply about "your skills are of interest to us" etc.. So here's hoping I get some more positive replies than my other applications got...

I do have one problem however, for references I have one Academic one (could get two if I wanted) but I don't know where to get a work one from as the company I worked with last summer (a medium sized multinational) was a bit confused management of me wise. In essence I was in contact with the HR department, but when I actually went in to the job I was free to do what I wanted in essence, which meant working with quite a few people over the couple of months (experiencing all the sectors). I can only think of sticking my HR contact as a reference, however they probably don't know much about my time with the company as such.

Smit · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:07

Amp34 said:
I do have one problem however, for references I have one Academic one (could get two if I wanted) but I don't know where to get a work one from as the company I worked with last summer (a medium sized multinational) was a bit confused management of me wise. In essence I was in contact with the HR department, but when I actually went in to the job I was free to do what I wanted in essence, which meant working with quite a few people over the couple of months (experiencing all the sectors). I can only think of sticking my HR contact as a reference, however they probably don't know much about my time with the company as such.

Your reference usually only includes that you worked there between such and such dates and that's it

It doesn't mention what your day to day duties were or how good you were at them.

Amp34 · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:19

Ah ok, so not an actual person within the company? So I guess using the actual names of my academic staff and then just the company and date for my work reference is fine then? That makes it a lot easier!

Smit · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:20

Amp34 said:
Ah ok, so not an actual person within the company? So I guess using the actual names of my academic staff and then just the company and date for my work reference is fine then? That makes it a lot easier!

For your work reference, the head of HR should be fine

Nitefly · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:36

Delvis said:
Heres hoping indeed

Hopefully it favours in your way.

Thanks

Liefrich · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:44

Nitefly said:
Thanks

Good luck dude, a second Assessment centre invite during these times is always a good sign (you're ticking the HR boxes). So even if you fail (which i'm sure you won't) do not get to disheartened as you have plenty of years of applying left.

Nitefly · 7 Sep 2009 at 18:02

Liefrich said:
Good luck dude, a second Assessment centre invite during these times is always a good sign (you're ticking the HR boxes). So even if you fail (which i'm sure you won't) do not get to disheartened as you have plenty of years of applying left.

Well, we can hope. The bigger deal is the sponsorship - there is no way I can do the LPC without it so I will have to take a gap year. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's nice to have security. Thank you for your kind words!

NickK · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:50

New format CV uploaded on friday and I've had three recruitment firms attempting to put me forward for jobs without even applying

Fingers crossed

Seems all that reading about improving writing skills and focusing on the points properly has done the trick!

Good luck all

kylew · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:11

I've recently become unemployed too, though at the moment I wanna go freelance really. My thing is CAD design. I have 2 years of architectural experience and I've worked on quite a few building projects.

I just don't have a clue where to start in terms of freelance architectural work.

I'd love to work from home. Wishful thinking, eh?

Indy500 · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:14

kylew said:
I've recently become unemployed too, though at the moment I wanna go freelance really. My thing is CAD design. I have 2 years of architectural experience and I've worked on quite a few building projects.

I just don't have a clue where to start in terms of freelance architectural work.

I'd love to work from home. Wishful thinking, eh?

Ask shadowscotland, he's an architect.

NickK · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:28

Amp34 said:
In essence I was in contact with the HR department, but when I actually went in to the job I was free to do what I wanted in essence, which meant working with quite a few people over the couple of months (experiencing all the sectors). I can only think of sticking my HR contact as a reference, however they probably don't know much about my time with the company as such.

Get in contact with that HR reference and explore to find those additional references. Currently the wording "in the job to do what ever I wanted" but not have references may equate to feet up on the desk.