Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 12:57

Nasher said:
The nerve agent was made in Russia and designed to be undetectable.

I think you're misreading into that, it was designed to be undetectable by standard NATO chemical weapon detectors of the time and to bypass NATO chemical weapon suits, that's not the same as being undetectable by lab tests on a victim/etc.

MookJong said:
The only people with access to this strain of Novichok are the Russians.

Have they confirmed which strain it is?

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 12:59

Russia has finally responded, denies responsibility (/shock lol).

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...-after-theresa-may-set-deadline-a3788431.html

Secret_Window · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:02

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:05

Secret_Window said:
Trump sacks Rex Tillerson as state secretary

We know...

gettothechopper said:
So a few hours after Rex Tillerson backs us on Russia, and no russia condemnation from the White House

Old Rex suddenly gets the sack from Trump

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43388723

Brookert · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:06

#Tin foil hat time

Maybe Trump ordered Tillerson not to say anything, and he ignored him?

gettothechopper · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:08

seems maybe that he was fired on friday (only announced today)

still - that shows Rex is only free to voice his actual opinions once he knows he is toast already

Secret_Window · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:10

ubersonic said:
We know...

Secret_Window said:
I posted it also in the russia thread in GD too, since the timing is a bit peculiar. Hope that's ok.

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:20

Secret_Window said:
I posted it also in the russia thread in GD too, since the timing is a bit peculiar. Hope that's ok.

This is the Russia thread in GD :S

Hence me pointing out you reposted something from like 4 posts prior lol

VincentHanna · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:23

With friends like Trump, who needs enemies [like Russia]?

Secret_Window · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:25

ubersonic said:
This is the Russia thread in GD :S

Hence me pointing out you reposted something from like 4 posts prior lol

I was showing that I had already seen your post and had posted it. I knew that you already had seen the news in the trump thread, but was posting it here as well.

Jono8 · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:26

gettothechopper said:
So a few hours after Rex Tillerson backs us on Russia, and no russia condemnation from the White House

Old Rex suddenly gets the sack from Trump

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43388723

They aren't even bothering to hide it anymore.

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:30

Secret_Window said:
I was showing that I had already seen your post and had posted it. I knew that you already had seen the news in the trump thread, but was posting it here as well.

I think I see what's going on here.

Gettothechopper posted it here, and in the trump thread, then you saw his post in the trump thread and reposted it here lol.

Secret_Window · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:33

ubersonic said:
I think I see what's going on here.

Gettothechopper posted it here, and in the trump thread, then you saw his post in the trump thread and reposted it here lol.

I didn't see his post when I was typing it.

Edit: I've removed my original post. Apologies.

Nerusy · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:40

Jono8 said:
They aren't even bothering to hide it anymore.

Whilst it does appear to be suspicious at first glance, the press is reporting that the decision to sack Rex was made on Friday.

gettothechopper · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:41

Nerusy said:
Whilst it does appear to be suspicious at first glance, the press is reporting that the decision to sack Rex was made on Friday.

But doesnt that just show us that Rex is only free to voice his actual opinions once he knows he is getting fired anyway?

Nerusy · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:48

gettothechopper said:
But doesnt that just show us that Rex is only free to voice his actual opinions once he knows he is getting fired anyway?

Indeed it does.

I am clarifying that he was not fired for saying that, which would imply Trump is firing anti-russian advisers as this is what it looks like to an average person.

US so far did a reasonable thing, which is voice support for their ally. Also Tillerson said a very reasonable statement that it is probably the Russian government who is behind this.

Edit: Apparently Trump is citing Iran disagreements with Tillerson as the reason for the sacking.

Jono8 · 13 Mar 2018 at 13:48

gettothechopper said:
But doesnt that just show us that Rex is only free to voice his actual opinions once he knows he is getting fired anyway?

Exactly.

Maybe he wantiedto say that at the end of last week. So Trump fired him, and then he came out with it anyway.

The WH press sec specifically avoided backing May in suspecting Russia.

This whole thing is so brazen it is ridiculous.

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2018 at 14:03

Jono8 said:
The WH press sec specifically avoided backing May in suspecting Russia.

Would be so funny if right now the white house were like "actually Rex we can't find our Novichok samples, we should probably keep quiet about this" XD

Jono8 · 13 Mar 2018 at 14:05

Now it appears he may not have been fired Friday and only found out about it via the tweet!

https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/973557338304073729

There seem to be conflicting reports. Either way it looks as suspicious as hell.

Danny75 · 13 Mar 2018 at 14:19

Mr Lavrov said that Moscow’s requests to see samples of the nerve agent have been turned down

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/13/russi...ador-emergency-meeting-spy-poisoning-7383279/

Providing samples shouldn't be a problem. This will provoke more questions.