Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.

[Rroff]

Looks like his whole family has been knocked off. Poison tipped umbrella no doubt.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nvestigate-russian-spy-mystery-sergei-skripal

Interesting about the daughter having just come over from Russia, etc. - wonder if she was coerced in some way or duped even in this case for the killing.

 

[ChrisD.]

I used to live just outside of Salisbury so I know the locations quite well, I do miss the place at times. I would not have expected something like this to have happened there.

 

[Chris Wilson]

I'm more shocked that you seem so pleased about it.

I think neutral would be how I described my stance, personally

 

[Minusorange]

And who cares how many others they kill in the process.

It's nice to have people showing their colours about how little they care for innocent people caught up in things.

Without moving blame off Russia it's not like our own nation has clean hands when it comes to deaths of innocents caught up in these geo political chess games, one only needs look to Iraq, Libya and Syria and the millions either displaced from their homes or killed as a result of our own meddling in trying to overthrow regimes and destabilise those regions which are often friends with Russia.

And it's not new this has been happening since WW2 from Korea, to Vietnam to Afghanistan (80's and 00's).... the list goes on

One would think that if Russia really wanted him dead, they would have arranged an "accident" for him whilst in jail ? But no, it's better to kill him years later in a foreign country and cause a political **** storm from it all

There's also another option in that it's not Russia who killed him but Mossad, N Korea, BND, CIA, MI6 in order to create political instability because guess what ? The timing is rather convenient considering it's Russia's election period

 

[Chris Wilson]

Without moving blame off Russia it's not like our own nation has clean hands when it comes to deaths of innocents caught up in these geo political chess games, one only needs look to Iraq, Libya and Syria and the millions either displaced from their homes or killed as a result of our own meddling in trying to overthrow regimes and destabilise those regions which are often friends with Russia.

And it's not new this has been happening since WW2 from Korea, to Vietnam to Afghanistan (80's and 00's).... the list goes on

One would think that if Russia really wanted him dead, they would have arranged an "accident" for him whilst in jail ? But no, it's better to kill him years later in a foreign country and cause a political **** storm from it all

There's also another option in that it's not Russia who killed him but Mossad, N Korea, BND, CIA, MI6 in order to create political instability because guess what ? The timing is rather convenient considering it's Russia's election period

I would think the Russian people would give kudos to Putin for taking a firm hand with traitors...If indeed the Kremlin were behind this incident. He would be seen as weak allowing a traitor to live a life of Riley in the UK, surely?

 

[Nasher]

Looks like a bunch of people around them got effected as well, some police and ambulance personnel. Russia launching biochemical terrorist attacks now...

I can't imagine a western power doing it so messily and hitting their own citizens. Russia is quite happy to carpet bomb cities to hit a couple of targets.

 

[wildman]

Without moving blame off Russia it's not like our own nation has clean hands when it comes to deaths of innocents caught up in these geo political chess games, one only needs look to Iraq, Libya and Syria and the millions either displaced from their homes or killed as a result of our own meddling in trying to overthrow regimes and destabilise those regions which are often friends with Russia.

And it's not new this has been happening since WW2 from Korea, to Vietnam to Afghanistan (80's and 00's).... the list goes on

One would think that if Russia really wanted him dead, they would have arranged an "accident" for him whilst in jail ? But no, it's better to kill him years later in a foreign country and cause a political **** storm from it all

There's also another option in that it's not Russia who killed him but Mossad, N Korea, BND, CIA, MI6 in order to create political instability because guess what ? The timing is rather convenient considering it's Russia's election period

doubtful this is false flag. Putin was pretty straight when he said things were going to get a bit chronic for these traitors. He is looking after his countries interests by ensuring these treasonous betrayers meet the justice deserving of traitors to the state.

 

[Freakbro]

He is looking after his countries interests by ensuring these treasonous betrayers meet the justice deserving of traitors to the state.

Are you at least going to hold your bff responsible for any innocent bystanders and emergency service workers caught up in this? Or is that ok too, just their fault for getting in the way of Russia's justifiable attack within our country?

 

[Washout]

doubtful this is false flag. Putin was pretty straight when he said things were going to get a bit chronic for these traitors. He is looking after his countries interests by ensuring these treasonous betrayers meet the justice deserving of traitors to the state.

Bravo! Glad they cut the treasonous blood of the whole family line. Root and stem.



Some real oddballs out there.

 

[Chris Wilson]

Are you at least going to hold your bff responsible for any innocent bystanders and emergency service workers caught up in this? Or is that ok too, just their fault for getting in the way of Russia's justifiable attack within our country?

`Tis a risk when our government allows a prime Russian traitor target to mingle freely with us all I guess. The polonium incident showed that the Kremlin holds innocent bystanders health in scant regard when bringing their brand of dramatic justice to bear on foreign soil.

 

[Roar87]

doubtful this is false flag. Putin was pretty straight when he said things were going to get a bit chronic for these traitors. He is looking after his countries interests by ensuring these treasonous betrayers meet the justice deserving of traitors to the state.

There's some irony when someone who lives in the UK and has his location set as "Idiotic Britain" is happy that people from other countries are being killed for being treasonous

 

[Minusorange]

doubtful this is false flag. Putin was pretty straight when he said things were going to get a bit chronic for these traitors. He is looking after his countries interests by ensuring these treasonous betrayers meet the justice deserving of traitors to the state.

Then why wait when they're overseas in a country who's relations since WW2 haven't exactly been best of friends and have been fighting proxy wars against each other for 60+ years whilst also threatening each other with the very real threat of mutually assured destruction should one or the other decide to start tossing nukes about ?

Why now all of a sudden ? Why not kill him when they had him ?

Sure it might just be Putin sending a message but the whole seeking justice to traitors doesn't make sense when they could have done it quietly and much much cleaner when they had him in prison rather than create what is ultimately going to be a political mess and sour relations even more between the West & Russia

 

[jsmoke]

Then why wait when they're overseas in a country who's relations since WW2 haven't exactly been best of friends and have been fighting proxy wars against each other for 60+ years whilst also threatening each other with the very real threat of mutually assured destruction should one or the other decide to start tossing nukes about ?

Why now all of a sudden ? Why not kill him when they had him ?

Sure it might just be Putin sending a message but the whole seeking justice to traitors doesn't make sense when they could have done it quietly and much much cleaner when they had him in prison rather than create what is ultimately going to be a political mess and sour relations even more between the West & Russia

As said maybe they couldn't find him and followed his daughter to him. The election is in 10 days so cleaning up some loose ends, as you do. A clean slate and all that.

 

[Freakbro]

`Tis a risk when our government allows a prime Russian traitor target to mingle freely with us all I guess. The polonium incident showed that the Kremlin holds innocent bystanders health in scant regard when bringing their brand of dramatic justice to bear on foreign soil.

Err, so your concern is more that he is a "Russian traitor" than a "UK Ally"

Hmm, you do have some weird thought processes in that head of yours

 

[Chris Wilson]

Then why wait when they're overseas in a country who's relations since WW2 haven't exactly been best of friends and have been fighting proxy wars against each other for 60+ years whilst also threatening each other with the very real threat of mutually assured destruction should one or the other decide to start tossing nukes about ?

Why now all of a sudden ? Why not kill him when they had him ?

Sure it might just be Putin sending a message but the whole seeking justice to traitors doesn't make sense when they could have done it quietly and much much cleaner when they had him in prison rather than create what is ultimately going to be a political mess and sour relations even more between the West & Russia

Probably because he was a useful bargaining chip and they swapped him on an exchange scheme? Dead spies are not worth zilch.

 

[Chris Wilson]

Err, so your concern is more that he is a "Russian traitor" than a "UK Ally"

Hmm, you do have some weird thought processes in that head of yours

I like the Russians, they gave a lot of blood in the war. A tough race.

 

[RaohNS]

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Evidence... evidence... evidence...

 

[Minusorange]

Dead spies are not worth zilch.

But they seem to be worth furthering hostile relations and potential sanctions by assassinating them on foreign soil ?

 

[dowie]

Read what I wrote again, slowly this time, then you may just get it.

I read what you wrote the first time, it seems like a very dubious argument. Are you able to justify/expand on it in some way?

I'm mean you've pointed out some people think we in the west are beyond reproach, I don't think that. Then you've mentioned western interventions. What is the relevance? What are you actually trying to say. Just saying "think about it" or telling someone to re-read your post is a bit odd and I'm wondering perhaps if you haven't thought out your viewpoint very well yourself - if you had you'd perhaps be able to answer directly instead of giving a reply like that.

 

[Nasher]

It's almost certain that Russia did this, no one else uses these kind of messy and public methods (except maybe North Korea). No one else has motive to kill him.

Ex-Russian spies drop like flies in suspicious circumstances to unknown substances and people are still in denial.

You don't hear about western traitors dropping dead in Russia, because the UK and US doesn't do things like this. They know that it will eventually get traced back to them as it does to Russia, despite them going to great effort to hide it and make the poison untraceable.