Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.
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Guess we'll find out won't we, as soon as an American pilot dies, i dont see how it wont escalate into total conflict.
Didn't people say that when the Russian pilot was shot down?
I dont think we're going to see any kind of real strike maybe a few missiles into an unmanned bit of a base or a runway even the defence Secretary in the US is saying we shouldn't strike.
A more interesting thing could be we may see America's "nice and new and smart" missiles going up against Russian missile defence systems.
If that a technology test either side would relish or rathet not reveal capabilities to the other?
Yep, people seem to have forgotten how we got exactly the same nonsense when Turkey shot down the Russian jet. Out come of all that was...words?
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Its already happened, you don't attack a position held by the yanks, they know how to fight.... sorry they were "russian mercs"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-300-killed-and-wounded-sources-idUSKCN1FZ2DZ
I thought there was a treaty restricting those kinds of weapons
I feel like Turkey shooting one done is vastly different to the Americans doing it or vice versa, it's literally as direct as one can be.
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Putin does owt more than fire a few missiles at US missiles and he will be kissing his ruski butt goodbye.
Outcome of this will be the allies will destroy a fair bit of Syria's military, if the reds fire at an ally ship or launch platform then its all up in the air, and likely to be a big ***********
Putin stands no chance against NATO and he knows it, unless he plays the big N card and that is a very very big game changer.
Outcome of this will be the allies will destroy a fair bit of Syria's military, if the reds fire at an ally ship or launch platform then its all up in the air, and likely to be a big ***********
Putin stands no chance against NATO and he knows it, unless he plays the big N card and that is a very very big game changer.
But Russian trips are at Syrian base snow America can't just fire on them
It's more a case that the us/NATO cant do anything without escalating.
Nah that's putting weapons in Space. Anti satellite missiles are owned by all the big powers China tested one a few years ago which ****** everyone off because it left a lot of trash in orbit
I believe, and stand to be corrected, that the treaty/treaties (at present) is/are about stationing such weapons in space. Apparently the US and China have weapons capable of this too. Would be surprised if they didn't, anyhow. Just saw Tefal confirm it before posting this message.
I'd remind you that all this Salisbury **** kicked off mere days after Putin announced on 1st March that weapons which can penetrate the defence shields NATO has been so busy popping up everywhere, had been developed and some were already operational. Pride cometh before a fall. Every strength has its weakness. NATO has been too reliant on technology for military and comms. Or, better said - has not been aware enough of its achilles heel and fortifying that aspect.
That isn't to say Russia wouldn't also lose any war. It's a war nobody can win.
What did Trump tweet right after the tweet threatening missiles? He tweeted that it would be great to be able to talk with Russia about the "arms race". If you view all this ongoing drama in that context, it paints a picture of NATO concern with Russian weaponry achievements, which it has responded to by staging events that make Russia look bad and utilizing the force of the media and threats of military action, to try to force Russia to the table to discuss the "arms race".
Also, anyone who thinks the following isn't part of the reason for the "delay" in the missile strikes, isn't thinking straight:
Now you can get back to playing jingo, if it makes you happy.
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Thats the thing, I doubt Putin will want to escalate thing (who would) but if things did then Russia's lack of technological fight will harm them a lot.
Then again we might well see an increase in bots on forums, get ready for Redbots incoming
Then again we might well see an increase in bots on forums, get ready for Redbots incoming
Most likely Russia's defense system is nonsense. But the US won't want to let them know that, so most likely it will be something basic using old tech.
The west has the advantage of having Russians defecting to them and handing them information (which is how they know about the nerve gas), almost none go the other way. Because, well, who would want to give up a life in Europe or the US to live in Russia?
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S-400 is reasonably decent and there is an export version. They have some issues with more sophisticated target selection like with its replacement that make them easier to overwhelm with saturation than the on paper numbers suggest but otherwise seems to be the real deal.
But NATO are well aware of it already and likely have some in their position. I know they have a number of Russian jets as well (not sure how old the story is now, but there was a Russian pilot who basically flew to Greece and sold the RAF his fighter for a couple of million lol).