Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.
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Headline news in today's Mail. Should we boycott the World Cup in Russia? Good God, they'd probably be pleased if we did, the Russian supporters shout themselves hoarse with racist abuse at our players, we'd be saving them a lot of stress 
So do our supporters lol.
Well you can tell that to the South Africans.
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Ha I was literally just talking about this at work -
Happy to carry out a false flag chemical attack on our own soil and citizens but cant be bothered to drive more than a few miles
If you were talking about Porton or Winterbourne Gunner local residents getting ill from a leak into local water or something than fair enough but only victims are a ex russian spy? lol
Professional hit will observe the target first and probably pick up on such (maybe not so much if you've been clever concealing 1-2 hidden cameras, but body cam or an extensive security system, etc. would be noticed and/or they'd probably wear their mum's old tights to obscure their features).
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Ha I was literally just talking about this at work -
Happy to carry out a false flag chemical attack on our own soil and citizens but cant be bothered to drive more than a few miles
If you were talking about Porton or Winterbourne Gunner local residents getting ill from a leak into local water or something than fair enough but only victims are a ex russian spy? lol
21 people now confirmed to be affected. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...on-russian-spy-police-salisbury-a8246566.html
Not sure they ever actually went away.
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Quite, the target however was clearly the spy and his daughter, everyone else will be passers by, police and medcial staff trying to help them
I wont be popping into town for lunch for a while either, although plenty of police, tv crews and cordons when I drove through this morning
Sure, that could be it. It could likewise be an accidental leak of some sort, and spy and daughter recruited to take part in explaining it away as an attack by Putin. Or it could be something else.
It's not unfeasible that Porton Down's proximity is not merely a coincidence. The country's top experts on chemical weapons are based there, and response teams would be able to get there fast.
You believe this can only be an accident? That there is no possibility of a conspiracy to murder?
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Yes I know , I work about half a mile from it
An accidentlal leak from Porton Down in salisbury town center ? its not exactly the kind of stuff they pump around in pipes through town
We kill a spy who helped us (that we swapped valuable policital prisoners for?) to hide a leak?
Not the most likely scenario is it?
but Russian TV openly boasting about how short the life span is of ex russian spies who defect doesnt give you any hints?
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Limited / no political advantage to gain from the pubic not liking Russia, so if this was done by our government and all they wanted to do is get rid of the guy then why make it so public, what possible advantage does this bring?
With that I agree. An accident is not the most likely scenario, in my opinion. Even so, accidents can and do happen. And if one like this did, I don't imagine they would hold their hands up and say "it was us, sorry". Instead, they would have a cover-up ready to go, and use such a crisis to further an agenda.
Are you referring to this?: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43330498
What observations do you take issue with?
Strange things have been and are going on:
https://www.rt.com/news/408416-russians-biological-samples-research/
I wouldn't say that's accurate. For starters, there is a huge political advantage for the political establishment of one country to present another country as "worse/the badder ones". There always has been. When times are hard, and you don't want the public's attention on you so much, get them to look at and blame/hate someone else. Then you have NATO and the EU, and Russia is often listed as one of the main good reasons for keeping them. Without writing an essay on this subject, all that's left to say is open your eyes and see how the political establishment have made it one of their goals to get the public to hate Russia, over the past four or five years.
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Of course accidents happen - Your conclusion however is ridiculous, I can personally assure you, the people that work at Porton Down are not evil government types from the xfiles smokey board rooms, but rather scientists and admin people who just like being paid, weekends (some dont actually like weekends the sickos) and doing interesting work
I dont take issue with anything, however its pretty clear who would want to kill this guy (and has a record of similar actions in the recent past)
Also lol RT links
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So if the purpose is to get us to "hate" Russia then explain what is happening to out military budget to counter such a perceived dangerous enemy and appease the voters?
There is no conclusion. Simply saying that I would imagine acknowledgement of an accident of such magnitude would lead to enormous pressure on the Porton Down operation being terminated. I think it would be far-fetched to believe that the establishment would acknowledge it. The workers at Porton Down will have signed Official Secrets acts and will follow orders, as usual, keep on manufacturing their Sarin and VX and whatever else they do. I don't think that's ridiculous, really.
Would you lol if the BBC confirmed that the Russian Air Force was collecting British DNA samples?
What will happen remains to be seen, but there is no doubt Russia is used as the number one reason to increase it. Army chief calls for investment to keep up with Russia
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^^ This seems to be the issue
Could also be possible that he was actually a triple agent and his daughter was going to smuggle British Nerve agents back to Russia which he had obtained from the nearby storage facility, but something went wrong.
But the most likely explanation right now is still that Russia took him out.