Forza 2: No AA in final version
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Replays are more detailed...i-bert said:I'm just watching a replay of me in the M3,drifting round the final bend and i have to say its the best graphics i've ever seen in a racing game to date.The track detail is amazing.
Where the hell is my wheel
But I gather it has 4xAA for starters.
The console might be more powerful, but the demands are incredible from what it's trying to achieve.dirtydog said:
Running so much more at once does have an adverse effect, it would irregardless of power. It goes to reason that the harder you push an object, the greater the reaction. On the newer consoles there are more objects being pushed harder than ever before. It might be more powerful yes, but it's not doing the same things as the last generation either.
God of War 2 can do a lot because they know the limitations of the PS2, a console which, in comparison to the Playstation 3 or Xbox360 doesn't have anywhere near the level of output to give. The playstation 2 has a single texture output, basic physics, lower quality audio, vastly lower polygon counts...
The new things that are happening right now in terms of tecnological advancements are at the very beginning of their life-cycle, despite the console being 'next-gen' the techniques to achieve these new effects are very far from the tag the console has been given, these are very much in their infancy.
The simple fact is, to complete all these new effects is incredibly taxing on the system, that is why on the PC you have newer and newer GPU's worth almost quadruple the cost of an Xbox360, seperate physics cards, more and more memory being required, and faster processors. Despite the cost of all those seperate, powerful parts the Xbox360 is currently matching it punch for punch with what is clearly an inferior specification and if PC games are struggling for frame-rate (which they really are) then what do you expect from the Xbox360.
Too many people bandie around their opinions (which is justified - after all it's a public forum), but it's when they start talking about something that they aren't educated in, where as a couple of people here are (Nintenjo, alpha(?), Myself and I think a couple of others).
The leap between series 6 and series 7 of consoles is the most advanced leap that there has ever been and to have accomplished what they have so quickly should be hailed and not shot-down. The real leap will be coming in the next-generation where the current techniques really come into play. It's always harder to build hardware predicting what is necessary than building hardware knowing what is necessary and for that reason I expect a massive change in the 8th generation of consoles, but for now, the PS3 and Xbox360 are consistently improving and is all too often overlooked.
Mr Latte said:
Exactly you should be outraged!! You should be on your moral high horse!! look at the abuse Sony took for lying to you and you didnt even care about the PS3, This is your most anticipated title of like forever, you should be going postal right now!! Oh but it's ok they only had 2 years to develop it!
Personally i think the graphics are very sub par, as for the game, i will wait till i play it, but i dont think i will play it for long, as i will probably banish to to a corner when MS try to rape me for DLC
And to be fair, if this is what GT5 has as its competition, then i dont think Yamauchi San has much to worry about.
Dirtydog
You probably know that your negativity and moaning wind me up,but i know you're not stupid and like your car games.I really wish you could see this running on a 92" screen because i think you would be impressed.
I was worried by some of the screenies and vids that came out.I'd be lieing if i said otherwise.But this is a great looking game,not just in the replays.
You probably know that your negativity and moaning wind me up,but i know you're not stupid and like your car games.I really wish you could see this running on a 92" screen because i think you would be impressed.
I was worried by some of the screenies and vids that came out.I'd be lieing if i said otherwise.But this is a great looking game,not just in the replays.
Hang on, that is not a fair defence of the 360. Why? Because it has been ever thus. The PS2 and Xbox were on paper very weak compared to PCs of the time, yet even now there are games on both of those platforms which perform as well as PC games do today. Look at something like Burnout Revenge. Can you imagine a PC with a Celeron 733, 64MB and a Geforce3 running that at 60fps? Even the PS2 can do it. A fixed hardware platform has always been able to dramatically outperform what a PC can do, when the raw hardware specs are compared. I am not comparing the 360 to a PC. I am comparing it to the last-gen consoles and simply expecting a good improvement compared to them. Anything less is not acceptable.NokkonWud said:
Where as I disagree. If GT:HD is a sign of things to come then Forza has no competition.JUMPURS said:
Whilst I am really looking forward to GT5 it had better be a start improvement on GT:HD, a game, which for me is up there with the biggest disappointments of all time.
Such as?dirtydog said:
So why did (for example) Max Payne on my Athlno 600mhz, 128mb RAM and GeForce 2 absolutely blow away the Playstation2 and Xbox versions graphically?dirtydog said:
As I mentioned, the new graphical techniques being utilised now are the first time they have done so in consoles. Hardware was decided prior to new techniques being made a standard, running in higher resolution with bells and whistles.dirtydog said:
Because this is the first generation of which consoles ARE direct competition to PC's.
To say games AREN'T an improvement is ridiculous...
Better Graphics
Better Audio
Better Music
Better Physics
Better Online Play
Better Models
You can't have your cake and eat it, you say games should be running at 60fps and when they don't complain. When a game finally does run at 60fps you complain because graphically, it's not as good as the other games.
JUMPURS said:Like the AI in this forza Demo??
I just played with the AI, slowing down in front of them and they reacted fine, they either slowed behind me or dived across the track and passed me, must be something wrong with your game.