Forza Horizon 4

I wish the map was much bigger, like actual lake district + pennines + edinburgh. Map is too small.

I agree with that. Test Drive Unlimited came out nearly 15 years ago and the map was hugely bigger. I would love something around the same size again but with the Forza level of detail. It's not like the UK doesn't have a lot to offer in terms of variety and interesting landmarks.
 
I agree with that. Test Drive Unlimited came out nearly 15 years ago and the map was hugely bigger. I would love something around the same size again but with the Forza level of detail. It's not like the UK doesn't have a lot to offer in terms of variety and interesting landmarks.

The Crew 2 has a much more map than even TDU, but somethig ain't quite right about Crew 2.
 
I quite like The Crew 2 to be fair, but I haven't put a lot of time into it. I might just start putting more time into it again to explore the map at the very least.

It's another case in a lot of map but lack of detail, ok it's a bit better than Crew 1.

TDU 1 seemed to be the most fun of any driving game (open world) in terms of actual car control.
 
wheelspins now since one of the updates are just completely watered down its just green, green, green, green. pretty douchey thing to do.

the objective for the prelude was far too long (for a crap car) that quarry race was soul destroying just constant hairpins.

/moan over
 
I agree with that. Test Drive Unlimited came out nearly 15 years ago and the map was hugely bigger. I would love something around the same size again but with the Forza level of detail. It's not like the UK doesn't have a lot to offer in terms of variety and interesting landmarks.

Wish they'd re-release TDU2 with a graphics update and a bit more world detail - it is crazy just how much detail actually is in the game world but some stuff really pulls you out of it like the laughable waterfall effects and poor blending of rocks/distant z-fighting and some bits that are under-populated by any kind of human activity. I've never found another racing game that has the overall feel of the free roam in TDU2 though - for instance the first time you come around the corner on Kolekole Pass and see the whole valley unfolding is immense.
 
Anybody got a really simple guide on drifting. I can't complete any drifting challenges lol. Done all the rest. Just can't seem to get my head around it. The videos I have seen on YouTube just overwhelm me with information.
 
Anybody got a really simple guide on drifting. I can't complete any drifting challenges lol.
This was the same for me in F3. So far I've just ignored any drifting stuff...probably doesn't help that I'm using a steering wheel as it doesn't seem to work brilliantly in off road sections. Some of those races I have to switch back to controller just to give myself a chance.
 
This was the same for me in F3. So far I've just ignored any drifting stuff...probably doesn't help that I'm using a steering wheel as it doesn't seem to work brilliantly in off road sections. Some of those races I have to switch back to controller just to give myself a chance.

I do it but I don't do it in any kind of proper way, I usually use high powered four wheel drive cars to power drift through corners to get them done. Not a fan of drifting so don't care to do it any other way.
 
This is what I would normally do, or did back when I was learning.

For starters if you haven't already, turn all of the assists off (ABS is fine to leave on), traction control will obviously act completely against getting the wheels spinning and the stability control will try and keep you going in a straight line, it can feel like you are bottoming out in the corners. Manual gears are the best too as you you'll be wanting to have the most control over which gear you should be in at any given time.

Next is to get your car setup, some are better than others to learn with but I wouldn't focus on anything with tonnes of power. Stick with the lower grip tyres and change to AWD as it's the best option if you struggle to hold the drifts. I would argue that you don't need bucket loads of power in the car with the right setup. You only need more power/better tyres once you comfortable at low speeds and want to start zooming around the map at higher speeds, a little saloon car or silvia with up to 500bhp is more than enough.

The drift suspension is usually set up pretty well as standard so add that if you don't want to worry about changing settings, but I'd be looking to change the diff settings so that you have at least an 80:20 or 90:10 split towards the rear, with the acceleration setting maxed at 100% on the rear. If you have closer to a 50:50 split you'll find the car will feel a lot more lumbersome, being slower to get the back end out with more shallow angles, usually meaning you run wide or try to overcompensate and mess the corners up. Having acceleration to 100% allows the wheels to spin up as much as they like making things easier.

I'd then give the car a quick go and see how it feels. Best way is to start a race/time trial/rival on a shorter circuit, somewhere that you can keep repeating the same pieces of road on loop and get an understanding of how to set up and transition between corners. You want to approach a corner in a slightly higher gear, flick the back end out and hit the power. Get the car sliding and then slowly balance your throttle and steering until the car is in a steady drift with what feels like a constant angle. Try and use as much of the road as possible, gently releasing the throttle, flicking the car in the opposite direction and gently re-applying the throttle as you move into the next corner. You'll know when you are in the sweet spot as you'll be able to control the angle of the drift using the throttle, e.g. if the turn is getting gradually tighter then you can slightly increase the throttle to kick the back end out a little more, increasing the rate at which you turn.

You want the car to be hitting high revs, but not bouncing of the limiter. If you are hitting the limiter then try a higher gear as you will slow down and lose the drift, like wise if you are in too high a gear you could simply spin out. It's sometimes worth changing your gear ratios as you'll never be going for top speed and you want the flexibility to be ale to change up or down and hit that sweet spot depending on the corner you're going through.

Rinse and repeat until you have a good feel for the car and can reliably tackle the full circuit, then hit the open world and play about and you'll find things much more manageable. Using a RWD the technique is largely the same, you just have to be a lot more precise and have the understanding of how to control things using the throttle. It's actually very beneficial to get that experience as it will transfer to when you are racing, you will find the RWD monster cars far easier to tame and see the handling benefits over using AWD on everything.
 
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