Fuel up/down again

[TW]Fox · 29 Jul 2015 at 22:28

ianh said:
124.9 for diesel in Maidstone, same as V-Power/Optimax/Nitro+ or whatever the hell Shell are calling super-unleaded this week!

I think you need to shop around a bit more..

cainer · 29 Jul 2015 at 23:51

79.2p for Diesel in Belgium atm, was 82p when i filled up out there 2 weeks ago
(75.8p if you use a no fee card on todays exchange rate, 79.2p includes commision if paying in sterling)

MissChief · 30 Jul 2015 at 00:48

Hmm, I've run my car almost exclusively on Shell VPN+ Since I've had it but I'm beginning to hate the constant 8p difference when Tesco manage with a 4 or 5p difference. There's no Tesco close to my house but there is one not far from my Ex's where I am every weekend. Has anyone noticed a significant difference between the Momentum and VPN+ in their car? I have a Leon Cupra 180 1.8T.

Freakbro · 30 Jul 2015 at 09:53

MissChief said:
Hmm, I've run my car almost exclusively on Shell VPN+ Since I've had it but I'm beginning to hate the constant 8p difference when Tesco manage with a 4 or 5p difference. There's no Tesco close to my house but there is one not far from my Ex's where I am every weekend. Has anyone noticed a significant difference between the Momentum and VPN+ in their car? I have a Leon Cupra 180 1.8T.

I've read a lot of forum posts where some people say yes they can tell the difference and the same amount who say there's no difference.

The only thing I could glean from looking around (iirc) is that M99 uses more ethanol to achieve 99 Ron and VP has more cleaning agents in it.

I can't testify to the accuracy of that though.

ianh · 30 Jul 2015 at 14:23

The only difference is that Shell operate a franchise and a very, very small amount of stations may occasionally fill the V-Power tank with 95 on purpose instead and people who've filled their cars have seen the difference on a dyno with poor running, Det etc. This is very rare though I'd have thougt, I only know of 3 cars in 2 years.

Tesco on the other hand are not a franchise and rarely have any issues with fuel quality due to the above actions.

For me the nearest Shell is 15 miles closer to where I live/work than a Tesco with 99RON so I use Shell.

ChrisD. · 30 Jul 2015 at 14:26

I've had cars that need 97+ RON since 2006 and I've never had an issue with Tesco Momentum.

mrk · 30 Jul 2015 at 14:29

MissChief said:
Hmm, I've run my car almost exclusively on Shell VPN+ Since I've had it but I'm beginning to hate the constant 8p difference when Tesco manage with a 4 or 5p difference. There's no Tesco close to my house but there is one not far from my Ex's where I am every weekend. Has anyone noticed a significant difference between the Momentum and VPN+ in their car? I have a Leon Cupra 180 1.8T.

No difference here in performance, though the engine sounds smoother with Momentum perhaps? Maybe I'm imagining it... The talked about plus of V Power has always been that it uses more detergents to clean the engine and fuelling components thus prolonging engine health. I don't know how accurate this is today if this is what it used to be back in the day?

Edit* one person elsewhere said:

I'm not 100% sure (and await to be corrected), but I don't think V Power has anywhere near as much bio-ethanol in it which is known to rot seals.

Seems fair...

Both Momentum and Vpower Nitro+ are 99.

Minstadave · 30 Jul 2015 at 14:44

I don't think anyone actually publishes the amount or make up of their additives do they?

Akagi · 30 Jul 2015 at 15:16

I don't know, but fuels can and have been examined in the past.

snapdragon69 · 30 Jul 2015 at 15:16

ianh said:
Tesco on the other hand are not a franchise and rarely have any issues with fuel quality due to the above actions.
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I would never use TESCO fuel again, after they (their Greenenergy subsidiary) used industrial waste PCB washing solvents contaminated with black silicone, which formed silicon in the combustion chamber.https://www.google.co.uk/search?cli...&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=LDK6VbDoCfTH8gf77JCYDw

Amos91 · 30 Jul 2015 at 16:37

ianh said:
The only difference is that Shell operate a franchise and a very, very small amount of stations may occasionally fill the V-Power tank with 95 on purpose instead and people who've filled their cars have seen the difference on a dyno with poor running, Det etc. This is very rare though I'd have thougt, I only know of 3 cars in 2 years.

Tesco on the other hand are not a franchise and rarely have any issues with fuel quality due to the above actions.

For me the nearest Shell is 15 miles closer to where I live/work than a Tesco with 99RON so I use Shell.

Intriguing.

What happens when the tanker driver fills the tanks? The tanker driver isn't part of the franchise so has no reason to get involved with swapping fuel etc?

[TW]Fox · 30 Jul 2015 at 18:05

ianh said:
The only difference is that Shell operate a franchise and a very, very small amount of stations may occasionally fill the V-Power tank with 95 on purpose instead

Wow, thats quite an allegation. What you are suggesting is illegal. On what grounds do you make such a scathing claim, surely not 'how the car feels' alone?

Akagi · 30 Jul 2015 at 18:09

Amos91 said:
Intriguing.

What happens when the tanker driver fills the tanks? The tanker driver isn't part of the franchise so has no reason to get involved with swapping fuel etc?

Basically he was talking crap. So don't worry about it...

Ivyforce · 1 Aug 2015 at 17:50

ianh said:
The only difference is that Shell operate a franchise and a very, very small amount of stations may occasionally fill the V-Power tank with 95 on purpose.

Of course the bit of info you miss is that the franchise does not own the fuel, While the shop goods is franchise , the fuel is Shell's. Hence why you sometimes have 2 VAT numbers of the receipts.

Amos91 said:
What happens when the tanker driver fills the tanks? The tanker driver isn't part of the franchise so has no reason to get involved with swapping fuel etc?

Indeed the tanker driver does not work for the franchise or the oil company.

MR_Punk · 15 Aug 2015 at 17:16

107.9 for Diesel today, filled my Octavia up from empty in £60.

Muffin` · 15 Aug 2015 at 19:20

Hi guys, how much is petrol

thanks

roadie · 25 Sep 2015 at 23:20

I filled up with BP boggo 95 unleaded at 102.9 this evening.

Saved £3 over my usual tank full of Momentum 99. I will be trying to see whether there might be any difference in MPG between the two over a ~150 mile route I know.

Helios1234 · 25 Sep 2015 at 23:26

I don't understand what is going on with V Nitro+ prices lately. Typically it's 8p more than regular fuel but since the last drop, V Nitro+ hasn't changed and is now 14p more!

MissChief · 26 Sep 2015 at 00:10

I've been using Momentum recently instead of VPN+ but I will check the prices next time I'm passing.

Clarkey · 26 Sep 2015 at 00:30

Always used Momentum99, Shell is quite a bit dearer and I don't experience any difference.

On the topic of pump fuel, why do we not get E85 over here? Been reading a lot of stuff out of Aus about SR tuning and E85 is very popular there. They are making way more power on corn juice over 98 unleaded, it's almost unbelievable.