Fuel up/down again

So the people born and bought up in these areas who now own the houses but can't afford to move into another area - is that their choice as well?

Nope it's called life, much like the rest of the country be taxed to subsidise high speed internet to remote areas
 
Be interesting to see what parts of West Wales are considered "rural"

Never understood why fuel here is quite high compared to other areas - given that at one point there were three operating refineries here. The one remaining oil refinery (one shut down, the other converted to LNG) is Texaco yet the local Texaco garage has traditionally been one of the highest chargers in town.

As Fox says, give it to all or not at all. Wouldn't like to own a petrol station just on the wrong side of the line.
 
But then how do you actually receive the discount given that you will need to be able to buy fuel all over the country? In addition to this how do you avoid everybody and anybody with access to a rural postal code falsely registering for this?

Membership cards I'd assume. These would be linked to wherever the car is registered to :confused: .

Who knows how it would work.... Would the "consideration" ever come into play.... Hhhhmmmmmmmm I doubt it.

Its just one MP spewing rubbish in an effort to look really concerned!
 
So the people born and bought up in these areas who now own the houses but can't afford to move into another area - is that their choice as well?

These people must be in quite a minority - there are few if any very rural areas where it costs less to live there than it does in an inner city area. Now of course we'd all like to live somewhere nice and rural rather than in an inner city area but the fact we'd prefer something doesnt mean it isnt a choice.
 
[TW]Fox;18254880 said:
Give it to everyone or nobody not a select few.

Absolutely. Everyone is hit by this and there should be no discrimination with a postcode lottery. It’s either all or none.
 
Membership cards I'd assume. These would be linked to wherever the car is registered to :confused: .

I thought it would be far simpler than that - just a subsidy on the fuel costs at remote filling stations. By rural they presumably mean areas like the remote far North of Scotland.
 
Absolutely. Everyone is hit by this and there should be no discrimination with a postcode lottery. It’s either all or none.

I dunno, the idea of walking to get a loaf of bread or milk will be alien to a lot of people, although I imagine thats application to a lot more people than those in 'remote' areas.
 
I dunno, the idea of walking to get a loaf of bread or milk will be alien to a lot of people, although I imagine thats application to a lot more people than those in 'remote' areas.

Absolutely but the reason a lot of people live in more remote areas is because, lets face it, a small village in the countryside miles from anywhere is a far nicer place to live than Sholing, Southampton, or perhaps Mosside in Manchester...
 
Thats the very extreme this needs to target, however the uptopic picture your painting is probably the cornish holiday zone, the rest of the UK remote areas are actually a bit crap. 20 mins drive just to get to a town with shops, recreational facilities, the beach, a high school, the doctors, socialise with friends, clubbing. If you like just doing the gardening... maybe?
 
[TW]Fox;18255801 said:
I thought it would be far simpler than that - just a subsidy on the fuel costs at remote filling stations. By rural they presumably mean areas like the remote far North of Scotland.

Hmmmmm

And what of the inner city/urban folk?
 
Thats the very extreme this needs to target, however the uptopic picture your painting is probably the cornish holiday zone, the rest of the UK remote areas are actually a bit crap. 20 mins drive just to get to a town with shops, recreational facilities, the beach, a high school, the doctors, socialise with friends, clubbing. If you like just doing the gardening... maybe?

Ask 90% of people who live there if they fancy a swap with somebody in central Manchester or Sheffield or something and they will laugh at you. Most people in far out communities live there because the unique lifestyle you get as a result of living there is preferrable to them than city living.

Which is fine - freedom of choice and all that. Not everyone wants to live in a big city! But these choices shouldnt be subsidised by the tax payer unless there was no alternative.
 
At the start I thought "fair enough we don't have the luxury of choosing whether or not we use public transport" but to be honest Fox makes a convincing arguement.
 
At the start I thought "fair enough we don't have the luxury of choosing whether or not we use public transport" but to be honest Fox makes a convincing arguement.

Yes he does.

Poor get poorer.... Rich get richer.
 
[TW]Fox;18255878 said:
But these choices shouldnt be subsidised by the tax payer unless there was no alternative.

My understanding was that they were going to try to lower the pump prices at fuel stations in the rural areas because their prices are generally much higher. I filled up at Morrisons on Fri morning in Edinburgh at 122.9 by the time I got to Grangemouth the BP garage right outside the refinery was showing 129.9 :eek:

If you don't have a supermarket near you then you will be shafted...
 
That is my understanding as well - it's about fuel stations in remote areas where a combination of distribution costs and, perhaps more tellingly, lack of competition, results in an increased price.

But thats a market economy, right? Isn't that just how things work? The problem with fuel price is the non market economy element - nobody minds the fact oil is getting expensive - it's the monumentally high tax take that makes the prices increasingly unbearable.

Doing this for rual stations is a quick win - it wont cost much because the people who use them are low in volume, but they can then crow about how they helped out the needy motorists. Meanwhile the rest of us can carry on filling up with 40p a litre fuel but paying 130p a litre for it.
 
Farmers live in rural areas, so why isn't this about farmers and the farmers family? Same with the companies that deal with the farmers and the farm workers, they don't get to use the lower taxed fuel.
 
Ok lets pretend everyone who lives in a rural area is a farmer.

Then ask what about the poor sales reps, they have to do 40k a year.
 
Fuel isn't that bad around here, 124.9 for unleaded at the local shell garage so only a few pence more than pre Christmas prices.

If anything should be done, the government should stick to there original pledge. Stabilise fuel duty and stop taxing us twice!
 
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