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Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

MoRT489 said:
A lot of people just spent £600 on a gfx card that should have been released as the £450 top card a year ago - I can see most of them not being in their right mind :o :p
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Thats my feeling too

In my opinion the 600 series should have been released as

Titan = 680
780 = 670
680 = 660ti
670 = 650
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As soon as I saw the 670 pcb last year I knew they were up to something
 
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panyan said:
Thats my feeling too

In my opinion the 600 series should have been released as



As soon as I saw the 670 pcb last year I knew they were up to something
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That would have made terrible business sense for Nvidia. Why not milk the massive advantage you have (over AMD) over a couple of years and make more money?

I would. Anyone who says they wouldn't is just being naive.
 
alex_123_fra said:
That would have made terrible business sense for Nvidia. Why not milk the massive advantage you have (over AMD) over a couple of years and make more money?

I would. Anyone who says they wouldn't is just being naive.
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Yep, if i was running their operations i would have milked it just like they have

however, im seeing it from the other side - the consumer - and I dont like it one bit

when a new generation comes out i look for the company that has had the greatest performance leap since the last gen - if the new cards are exceptionally good then we all have a good year and brand loyalty is boosted

but the way that nvidia have played the past couple of years has really damaged my opinion of them
 
alex_123_fra said:
Not bad but not great. OCed cards will have better cooling solutions. I'm fairly sure the competitor you refer to doesn't have the EVGA superclocked card, just the standard ref card. The Gigabyte card is a bit more dear on OCUK yes but you should get free shipping here. So in the end you save what a tenner? OCUK have unmatched customer service and that is worth the extra £10-20 when buying this sort of caliber of card.
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They do have it in stock, but at the same price as OcUK. Gigabyte card is £10 more at OcUK but the other place is down the road from me and has a better cashback deal. At these prices I am fighting the pennies :D

What is the software like from these brands? I've seen EVGA have PRECISION, what about Gigabyte and ZOTAC?
 
panyan said:
Yep, if i was running their operations i would have milked it just like they have

however, im seeing it from the other side - the consumer - and I dont like it one bit

when a new generation comes out i look for the company that has had the greatest performance leap since the last gen - if the new cards are exceptionally good then we all have a good year and brand loyalty is boosted

but the way that nvidia have played the past couple of years has really damaged my opinion of them
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I'm so with you on this one mate, it does themselves no favours at all.

I'm only hoping that AMD won't follow the same route as them and go back to the old days of good value for performance.
 
esoteric said:
They do have it in stock, but at the same price as OcUK. Gigabyte card is £10 more at OcUK but the other place is down the road from me and has a better cashback deal. At these prices I am fighting the pennies :D

What is the software like from these brands? I've seen EVGA have PRECISION, what about Gigabyte and ZOTAC?
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Fair enough. You can use precision X on all Nvidia cards, not just EVGA ones. It works very well for me.
 
panyan said:
Yep, if i was running their operations i would have milked it just like they have

however, im seeing it from the other side - the consumer - and I dont like it one bit

when a new generation comes out i look for the company that has had the greatest performance leap since the last gen - if the new cards are exceptionally good then we all have a good year and brand loyalty is boosted

but the way that nvidia have played the past couple of years has really damaged my opinion of them
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I understand what your saying and in some respects I agree with you, but look at it this way Nvidia has brought us new cards just over a year after the last ones. What has AMD given us, a driver that showed just how bad the original release was and an overclocked 7970 ie the GHz ed that again is now a year old with nothing on the horizon for another 5-6 months.
 
TheRealDeal said:
In what way have amd not been competitive this past year. They have had the better hardware on the market at cheaper prices. At this moment the 7950 is still the best buy on the market.
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In purist terms, AMD have not been competitive due to a little thing called Titan. If we use CPUs as a comparison, Intel is king in performance and whoever wants that performance just sucks up the price. This is the price people pay to have the best single GPU (Titan). If AMD brought out a titan-like card, they could charge extortionate prices too (they kind of did comparatively when 7970 came out).
 
alex_123_fra said:
In purist terms, AMD have not been competitive due to a little thing called Titan. If we use CPUs as a comparison, Intel is king in performance and whoever wants that performance just sucks up the price. This is the price people pay to have the best single GPU (Titan). If AMD brought out a titan-like card, they could charge extortionate prices too (they kind of did comparatively when 7970 came out).
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LOL, Titan has been out for only a few months. For the majority of the past year AMD had the fastest single GPU available and gave the best price/perf ratio.

He is making a statement of fact.
 
alex_123_fra said:
In purist terms, AMD have not been competitive due to a little thing called Titan. If we use CPUs as a comparison, Intel is king in performance and whoever wants that performance just sucks up the price. This is the price people pay to have the best single GPU (Titan). If AMD brought out a titan-like card, they could charge extortionate prices too (they kind of did comparatively when 7970 came out).
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I shudder to think what Nvidia and intel would be charging without AMD about.
 
alex_123_fra said:
In purist terms, AMD have not been competitive due to a little thing called Titan. If we use CPUs as a comparison, Intel is king in performance and whoever wants that performance just sucks up the price. This is the price people pay to have the best single GPU (Titan). If AMD brought out a titan-like card, they could charge extortionate prices too (they kind of did comparatively when 7970 came out).
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The real problem is nvidia's huge following. Amd decided ages ago that building huge chips like titan/gtx480/580/280/285 were not gonna be profitable for them. If they did build one it would match titan of that i am pretty sure but would there be profit in it for them. Nvidia have that brand power that allows them to charge stupid prices. Look at the 7970 release and all the people moaning about £420 for the fastest single gpu on the market. It seems laughable now looking at nv's Titan and gtx780.
 
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If AMD had released the 7970 at $450 dollars instead of $550 dollars, I wonder if Nvidia would have followed suit with their launch of the 680? It is easy to blame one or the other but neither of them care about us.
 
ICDP said:
LOL, Titan has been out for only a few months. For the majority of the past year AMD had the fastest single GPU available and gave the best price/perf ratio.

He is making a statement of fact.
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That isn't the point. Yes Titan has only been out for a few months but it has been talked about for many prior to this. What have AMD been doing? A rebadge of sea islands and some vague rumours of their volcanic island GPUs which will probably not be with us until 2014. Too late! By then, the 800-series Nvidia cards will be round the corner.

Re: price to performance ratio, enthusiasts will not care. I'll give you a similar scenario with cars. If I wanted and was in the market for the fastest manufacturer standard road car right now and I could afford it, I would get the Bugatti Veyron Supersport (£1.6m). I couldn't give a stuff that a Pagani Huayra costs about half as much and has around 10% less performance (and a better price to performance ratio).
 
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That isn't the point. Yes Titan has only been out for a few months but it has been talked about for many prior to this. What have AMD been doing? A rebadge of sea islands and some vague rumours of their volcanic island GPUs which will probably not be with us until 2014. Too late! By then, the 800-series Nvidia cards will be round the corner.

Re: price to performance ratio, enthusiasts will not care. I'll give you a similar scenario with cars. If I wanted and was in the market for the fastest manufacturer standard road car right now and I could afford it, I would get the Bugatti Veyron Supersport (£1.6m). I couldn't give a stuff that a Pagani Huayra costs about half as much and has around 10% less performance (and a better price to performance ratio).
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That was pretty bad. I would get the pagani because unlike the bugatti it goes around corners and looks better. Do you not watch top gear where the Huayra thrashed the supersports time by 3 seconds. Unless you like going in straight lines all the time the huarya is a more balanced car and cheaper as you point out.
 
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