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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

They should have released a separate card for RTX and the usual range for raw performance.

Being forced to buy into RTX rubbish is pretty scummy, fair enough for it benefited existed games in some way but it won't.
 

Infiltrator demo ran at 4K on GTX 1080 Ti and RTX 2080 Ti.

RTX 2080 Ti is incredible twice faster than GTX 1080 Ti.

That 100% faster than GTX 1080 Ti at 4K, nearly 90 fps 4K. WOW. :eek:

DLSS is amazing. :)
 
hmmmmm so numbers are starting to filter out and to be fair, they are looking ok even without using the tensor cores.

if this new antiailiasng takes off however i gotta admit it makes the cards start to look appealing to me. i have already resigned myself to getting a 2080...... (unless a 1080ti comes up v cheap) but I am not gonna lie.... the 2080Ti is looking more and more appealing. i fear a weekend post beer pre-order!.
 

Infiltrator demo ran at 4K on GTX 1080 Ti and RTX 2080 Ti.

RTX 2080 Ti is incredible twice faster than GTX 1080 Ti.

That 100% faster than GTX 1080 Ti at 4K, nearly 90 fps 4K. WOW. :eek:

DLSS is amazing. :)
Isn't DLSS just running at lower Res, but having the AI upscale it? Meaning that the 2080ti is barely faster?
 
a) 20xx is so much better than 10xx that anyone would be stupid to buy 10xx now, and NV/shops would be left with lots of undesirable stock

This would be the case if the new cards were the same price but the current pricing strategy is aligned to expected performance. 2080 slighlty better than 1080 ti costs a bit more. 2070 worse than 1080 ti costs a bit less
 
They should have released a separate card for RTX and the usual range for raw performance.

Being forced to buy into RTX rubbish is pretty scummy, fair enough for it benefited existed games in some way but it won't.
Wow they are forcing you - what scoundrels! Are they there right now with their billy clubs? Did they break one of your fingers and tell you you MUST buy one of the new RTX cards? I would report them if I were you, that must be illegal, surely?
 
hmmmmm so numbers are starting to filter out and to be fair, they are looking ok even without using the tensor cores.

if this new antiailiasng takes off however i gotta admit it makes the cards start to look appealing to me. i have already resigned myself to getting a 2080...... (unless a 1080ti comes up v cheap) but I am not gonna lie.... the 2080Ti is looking more and more appealing. i fear a weekend post beer pre-order!.
Got a link to the numbers? Everyone is dying to know.
 
What about games that don't support DLSS?
I agree it is a worry.... but hopefully going forward this will become a standard option in ALL new games just like other AA options are now.

i have more hope for this this generation than i do Ray Tracing, which i think will be more of a realistic option for the Ti level of cards next gen. without a hail mary update i think the cost of Ray Tracing on framerate is just too high.
 
Wow they are forcing you - what scoundrels! Are they there right now with their billy clubs? Did they break one of your fingers and tell you you MUST buy one of the new RTX cards? I would report them if I were you, that must be illegal, surely?

+1

Careful, you'll be on the naughty step with me :/
 
Wow they are forcing you - what scoundrels! Are they there right now with their billy clubs? Did they break one of your fingers and tell you you MUST buy one of the new RTX cards? I would report them if I were you, that must be illegal, surely?
I not sure how you aren't banned yet. Every single post you make is absolute off topic drivel.
 
Got a link to the numbers? Everyone is dying to know.

not ideal due to a biased source. A mate tells me expect actual leaked benchmarks over the weekend but he tells me it is not as bad as many people (myself included) are fearing... but if that is the 2080 (dark green ignore light green) then that should put it at least on a par with 1080ti worst case, better in most cases... I figure i can always cancel the pre-order however!.

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-benchmarks-claim-the-rtx-2080-will-be-50-faster-than-gtx-1080/

I would suggest the issue is the price, not the performance. Had the Ti of come out at say £850 and the normal card at £600 most of us would be happy(ish).

So then (this is my logic i am not saying you are wrong to disagree, it is just my thought process how i am starting to justify it to myself, and i admit it makes me part of the problem)

but then, this makes me ask, IF i would be happy with an £850 2080Ti....... is it worth stressing and getting distracted over £200 (or £120 for the 2080) for a gpu which i will expect to last me for at least 3 years maybe even longer.

Yes the money is obscene but is it worth cutting my nose of to spite my face.. gaming is my only hobbly and i know folk who spend 1000s a year on golf memberships.
 
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funny how people keep stating nvidia is ripping people off with a overpriced card with poor current game performance (even no realy figures are out yet), if you have a 1070 or better and the jump is as bad as some fear i have a crazy idea, dont buy one!

as for the possible good stuff, HDR performance is boosted if nvidias graphs are to be believed which is a good thing, and the real winner DLSS as its removing fsaa from the gpu and dumping it on the tensor cores yes i know only when implemented but id expect the majority of triple a games to support it and who knows if it can be patched in to old games.

ray tracing for me boils down to a tech launch, do you need it, no. will it be much of a use in the short term nope. but it was bound to happen eventually, weather its this year or in two years time, im glad its getting pushed more now so in a couple of years that same tomb raider 30fps 1080P demo could be more like 60fps at 1440P which is a hell of a jump when you consider what needs to happen and maybe im over egging it but who knows with it being the first generation, 2 years we could be on 3rd gen rt cores. also with 7nm in the wings the 2nd gen could be a rather large jump as it is.

im on a 1070 myself and honestly even if the prices where better i doubt id make the change as sure a 2080ti would be a big jump for me, but honestly a 1080ti would be a big jump also so il probably go 2nd hand or discounted 1080ti (if we get discounted ones) as i said above, if its as bad as people think it could be you're not being forced to buy one, just wait 12-18 months for the 2nd gen on 7nm's and get one then and save up you're pocket money so you can afford a all singing all dancing top end card when they hit.
 
Just don't understand Nvidia not giving general gaming performance indicators at the reveal. They must've known the pricing would cause a storm but if the performance was looking really good it would offset some of the negativity.

Cause as much media grabbing attention . They saw the frame count with tomb raider and reacted just enough to any of those going to cancel their preorder not to, and with reviews posting up "actually it's a good card" to get those on the fence leaning to upgrade .

Behind the scenes , NV really really ****** off with leaks , sure AIB will get strangled more and more .
AIB must also be feeling the bad press and have no control over it what so ever . You get the feeling evga asked permission from Nvidia to allow Gamersnexus to do a breakdown of the first AIB card...

The Nvidia way, brute power ..
 
Part of me feels that they've avoided giving performance metrics in terms of FPS so they can sell off as much of the Pascal stock as possible at current prices. But I suppose that only holds if there is a material increase in performance per core otherwise it's currently looking the price/performance ratio isn't moving at all on traditional games that won't take advantage of RT or tensor cores (2080 being sold at 1080ti price for 1080ti performance).
That is what I thought also. It could be the Turing cores performance is different and everyone comparing it with pascal and saying the 2080Ti will be 20% better at most could end up being very wrong.

It could end up being very similar to the differences in performance going from maxwell to pascal. Which would put 2070 on par with 1080Ti but with less ram. The 2080 being around 20% faster and 2080Ti around 50% better. It is very possible to do this with how much the die size has increased, but it depends on how much space these tensor cores are taking, if they have any benefit to normal games and if if there is an improvement core for core or clock for clock from pascal to turing.
 
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