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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

TheRealDeal said:
From adored tv's Video I think performance is going to be hit and miss. In games that have been coded for the shaders to be 50% faster the ti should wipe the floor with anything on the market. In games where this isn't the case it should be around 20% faster than the current ti. If you play a lot of little known Indy games that Nvidia don't throw money at, performance is likely to be disappointing for the money.

The reviews are going to be interesting for sure trying to pick through who's paid off and who's not. Should be able to tell by what games are reviewed and if they changed there usual game suite to suit.
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The reviews are going to be interesting too as these are forward facing GPU's IMO that reviewers can't fully review at present. It's also going to be interesting because those still miffed at pricing will be picking out anything that fits that case and the same for those buying :p. There will of course be reviews probably who want more attention than others who will be biased on whether they want to back NV or play into the hands of those complaining.
It's difficult to call outselves technology enthusiasts if we're going to look from the angle of only FPS in current games that don't put the new tech to use.
I predict round two of a balance of disappointment and excitement, that's for sure
 
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Reality|Bites said:
I've nothing much to say on the matter really, It's too expensive for what it is to just play the same old games and maybe 5 new ones?
So i'm out till prices come back to what I'm willing to pay.
I don't need to argue and try and change other peoples minds do I?
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That was one of the reasons I held off. If I'm honest, I have such a huge backlog of unplayed games and there's not much I rush out and pre-order.
 
waspy88 said:
I don't get all the saltiness...

Nvidia released the Titan X 2 years ago, I got and it had excellent performance over the 1080, and was near enough the same as a 1080ti when it launched much much later. I was annoyed that I couldn't get the 1080ti at the same time as a 1080. Now we have the opportunity to skip the line and get one for the same price as a Titan X.

Why buy a new Nvidia GPU? - Because through driver updates they keep nerfing previous generations.. remember the 780ti / 970 saga with the witcher?
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Do you want Nvidia forum bouncers come at you? Don't speak of such things here...
Is irrelevant and outright a rumour found in dark corners of the Web, that 398.36 shows higher performance than all subsequent drivers on games like Monster Hunt World etc.

Nvidia should ban this talk and enforce the same EULA restriction Intel is has. No performance comparisons allowed between microcode patches driver versions.
Here Nvidia please copy that line to your EULA, we do not think Intel will mind if you copy it....

....
You will not, and will not allow any third party to .... (v) publish or provide
any Software benchmark or comparison test results.
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/sarcasm :D
 
DarrenM343 said:
The reviews are going to be interesting too as these are forward facing GPU's IMO that reviewers can't fully review at present. It's also going to be interesting because those still miffed at pricing will be picking out anything that fits the case and the same for those buying :p. There will of course be reviews probably who want more attention than others who will be biased on whether they want to back NV or play into the hands of those complaining.
It's difficult to call outselves technology enthusiasts if we're going to look from the angle of only FPS in current games that don't put the new tech to use.
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Some good points,but future performance is a tricky thing though especially if the range ends up short lived and is replaced by 2020 on 7NM. I mean tessellation was first implemented on mass market GPUs in 2001,but took years to have widespread usage in games.
 
DarrenM343 said:
The reviews are going to be interesting too as these are forward facing GPU's IMO that reviewers can't fully review at present. It's also going to be interesting because those still miffed at pricing will be picking out anything that fits the case and the same for those buying :p. There will of course be reviews probably who want more attention than others who will be biased on whether they want to back NV or play into the hands of those complaining.
It's difficult to call outselves technology enthusiasts if we're going to look from the angle of only FPS in current games that don't put the new tech to use.
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You are true. The new "Turing FPS" unit measure should be used from now on, and every GPU not capable producing it, should receive a 0Tfps on the benchmarks. :p

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DarrenM343 said:
The reviews are going to be interesting too as these are forward facing GPU's IMO that reviewers can't fully review at present. It's also going to be interesting because those still miffed at pricing will be picking out anything that fits the case and the same for those buying :p. There will of course be reviews probably who want more attention than others who will be biased on whether they want to back NV or play into the hands of those complaining.
It's difficult to call outselves technology enthusiasts if we're going to look from the angle of only FPS in current games that don't put the new tech to use.
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Yea personally I think reviews for this should consist of games that use the tech in one section to see what's currently possible and in another games that don't to see what the majority of buyers will be seeing right now. A nice balanced review basically which is not stacked one way or the other. This is why I like reviewers who review cards on a big suite of varied games compared to those that pick around 5. This way you get a real representation of the card.
 
Wrinkly said:
is the frame generated by DLSS exactly the same as a normal super sampled frame, or do we lose some detail due to 'guess work'?
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It is not mathematically identical, but the real test will be in the perceived IQ. You should also note it is not like the TAA version is in some how 'correct' and a reference. They are both simply techniques to try and improve image quality. The output of one is no more 'valid' than the other, they only 2 thing that matters are i) perceived quality, ii) performance. The DLSS might actually look better to most people.
 
NVIDIA doesn’t want money from Ireland! They don’t accept orders or ship to Ireland for RTX; but do for the Titan V.

Despite Digital River being Ireland based and operated.

Oh well; saved my bank account for a while I guess.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
NVIDIA doesn’t want money from Ireland! They don’t accept orders or ship to Ireland for RTX; but do for the Titan V.

Despite Digital River being Ireland based and operated.

Oh well; saved my bank account for a while I guess.
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Shh, before we have a Brexiteer post here the solution that Ireland should "join the Union"..... :D
 
dreigns said:
What they showed was with TAA, I think they used it on the chain gun there would be a bit of a bend and some jagged edges still but with the DLSS it was way better but yes the AI thing has had a lot of training with that demo I would think but remember you can only use it on supported games.
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Really REALLY stupid question.... is the training something we can do? ie say i have a game, can i run it with super high super sampling in some benchmark for a while, then will the tensor cores "learn" anything?

(just writing this i realise the answer is no i think!!! but hey ho!)
 
D.P. said:
It is not mathematically identical, but the real test will be in the perceived IQ. You should also note it is not like the TAA version is in some how 'correct' and a reference. They are both simply techniques to try and improve image quality. The output of one is no more 'valid' than the other, they only 2 thing that matters are i) perceived quality, ii) performance. The DLSS might actually look better to most people.
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Actaully DLSS for me is the thing which is the most interesting,especially if it moves into midrange cards.
 
So, something not being discussed is how many rays do you get "in game" when you turn it on? I assume nowhere near the levels of the star wars trailer? What if it's like "6". and looks rubbish? I assume more rays the better? (Yet another slider for us to battle with as we move forward). :D
 
really would have liked to see GTX and RTX models . die fully to brim of Cuda cores under GTX and then 80 and 80ti RTX for beautiful rendered gaming .

wondering how gtx 2060/50 will turn out - nice to see if less of a core gap then 1060 > 1070 with less focus on RT cores etc
 
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