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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

Dan82 said:
I like the way some people think their opinion = what the world thinks.
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Kind of an ironic statement, why should we take your opinion over someone who says the price is too expensive? They have very valid points too.

What you are happy with, does not equal what other people are happy with.
 
Dan82 said:
I think smart phones usually last a user 2-3 years before they upgrade, this should be the case for gfx cards but unfortunately were enthusiasts and this is our hobbies so we do end up upgrading more often than we should.
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I think unless you're someone like us fellas on the forum who are making the step up the monitor resolutions, this is the case.

Imagine buying the GTX 1070 for £390 for a 1080p screen. You're still sitting there with your gpu, 2 and a bit years later with at least another year until any new gpus come in to improve performance/price ratio, still killing it in every game, 60fps ultra minimum in your AAA games and pushing 100fps+ on your "esport" type games, with your gpu still retailing around the same price region as what you bought it for.

If you got that 1080 on release and playing 1440p 2 and a bit years ago, you're generally in the same boat.

Hell, if you got that 1080ti a year and a half ago, overkill for anything 1440p and below, fantastic for ultrawide and still holding it's value, you're laughing.

Think the ones who kind of lose out in this market are the ones who are moving up the resolutions, particularly 4k, needing that extra performance to drive them extra frames and those who didn't grab a pascal card at launch that still matches their need for frames. This probably describes a lot of us forum members, mind :D The ones who don't fall into that category, I can't imagine many are particularly yearning for a new gpu or care whether Turing exists and what it costs.
 
melmac said:
Kind of an ironic statement, why should we take your opinion over someone who says the price is too expensive? They have very valid points too.

What you are happy with, does not equal what other people are happy with.
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No, I'm not making a statement, everything i say is my opinion, you either agree or not and your correct, everyone does make valid points but some try and drive their message as if everyone agrees.

I usually look at the bigger picture as to why a product comes in at it's retail price. R & D and engineering for a card like this must be ridiculously high, it's a very ambitious product that sets it apart from the usual gfx card release.

I can understand why the card is priced as high as it is even though we all wish it came in a price point where adoption could be higher but even then, it seems people would still trash it as to some 30-60 fps isn't enough for them when using the RT features.

I have learned that if you want to be at the cutting edge of visual and audio, everythings got a high cost for instance :-

4k oled - 1500-2000
4k uhd 500-900
High end audio 2000-3000

Being enthusiasts your going to stung but you got to look at the development that goes into these products for what is niche markets.
 
I decided to give the 2070 a miss,i picked up a nearly new zotac 1080ti amp extreme for £450,that will tide me over until the next gen hopefully :)


just got to find a waterblock for it now.
 
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The trouble with this for me is owning the latest and greatest is always going to be somewhat desirable. If I have confidence in getting something of immediate value I think that would be cool, but not without thinking is it worth it?

I can’t help but think in the case of Turing, if there is barely any content how can it be worth it?

AAA titles may look pretty, but it doesn’t change the fact most of them are **** in terms of gameplay.

Let’s see some decent games and I’ll consider spending money. By decent I don’t mean another third or first person shooter which relies on other players to make it enjoyable, or a pay to win type EA system.

Is it too much to expect decent content for a £1000-1500 GPU? If the answer is yes, then it goes to show how crazy this is.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
I can’t help but think in the case of Turing, if there is barely any content how can it be worth it?
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I've got a 2080ti on order for the increase in performance at 4k it will yield. Ray tracing will be nice to try, and maybe I'll want to do whole playthroughs with it, but it's not the reason I'm buying.
Anything is worth what you are prepared to pay for it. Value for money is another matter.
 
B1gbeard said:
Unfortunately if it was just a graphics card people, the same people generally, wouldn't keep going on about pre-orderers being kitten eating devils. There is more to it for that group. Probably that whether they can't afford it or are not buying it on principle, it still irks them that someone's is going to be bigger than theirs and need to vent that frustration in some way (not everyone mind).
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You honestly think jealousy is a big part of people's reasoning?

GPUs increase in price by 60%+ in one generation, and you think jealousy is driving complaints?

Many of us could easily afford a 2080 Ti without financial oblivion; we simply choose not to because the price increase offends us.

And once again... I'm almost always a mid-range buyer. I've managed to game very well on mid-range cards for decades without being consumed by jealousy of your xx80, Ti, Titan or Ultra cards :p I've been a happy mid-range gamer for a long time (up until the 1000 series which I thought was a pretty drastic price increase from the 900 series in itself...)

This isn't about jealousy of halo products (and perf) when you consider that the price rise is hitting all the tiers. 2070 up to £600 now. 2060 might be as much as £400 - that's not mainstream pricing at all.

Lastly to the people saying "1060/970/HD470 are all you need for 1080p"... should mainstream stick at 1080p for good, now? Should the perf/$ of the 1060/970/HD 470 be a plateau that doesn't need to rise for mainstream buyers? Is that "our lot", whilst perf increases only come for those who are prepared to spend ever-increasing amounts on halo cards? Is perf/$ a constant from now on?

Also, should developers create games that need more power before nV/AMD increase mainstream perf? Or should better cards for the mainstream come first, with software then being able to push forwards?
 
FoxEye said:
You honestly think jealousy is a big part of people's reasoning?
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Yes, I seriously do. I never begrudge anyone getting anything they have worked for but reading some of the comments here makes me certainly feel that 'some' are very jealous, 'some' will genuinely not pay that much, 'some' have no interest in buying the 20xx series and 'some' are looking forward to it. Too many here are coming across as jealous for me but I expect a lot of self justification posts to ensue.
 
Unrivaledx21 said:
I mean in general how much better do these perform versus air coolers?
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It is a complete different ballpark. As far as thermals go, heat will be a massive favour for tthe water cooled cards but depending on what power limits NVidia have put in place, they might not perform much, if any better than a decent stock chip.
 
The real limit will probably be the voltage one, Nvidia's been pretty conservative with the voltages since Maxwell/Pascal. Though I recall one of Nvidia's engineers saying that they have to limit it harder to avoid degrading the chips.
 
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