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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

It also takes some doing for someone to read back over my posting history on the subject so congrats on having not much better to do.

If you have a problem with it seeing as you seem to be taking the green kool aid intravenously then put me on ignore, problem solved. Simple fact is pricing and availability of these cards is a big issue regardless if you like it or not. Barely any stock and rampant price gouging are going to be talked about so i suggest you deal with it.

It’s a discussion forum mate...people seem to think that it’s ok to constantly post positive stuff but vilify people who have a different opinion.

Well if we sift out the sycophancy it’s clear the lucid individual can conclude the 2080 series release to be under par both in performance and pricing :p
 
In a lot of stuff it is a lot more than 30%.

I think like with previous generations down the line the gap will widen especially in newer games as they start to optimise the drivers for the newer architecture, etc. like with Maxwell where the shader architecture can do certain things ~35% faster than Kepler which wasn't really seen around launch but down the road Maxwell cards did much better in certain shader heavy games. (That isn't to say they suddenly jump up 35% faster than Kepler as that is only part of the workload).
 
It’s a discussion forum mate...people seem to think that it’s ok to constantly post positive stuff but vilify people who have a different opinion.

Well if we sift out the sycophancy it’s clear the lucid individual can conclude the 2080 series release to be under par both in performance and pricing :p


Some see the glass half full, i also see it half full, with a massive dump laid by Jensen. :eek:
 
Well I for one can’t wait to get a FE Ti. :)

Once they’ve made enough to go around that is. :(

Big jump up from a RX480.
 
From what I've read, it seems that ray tracing can be added in at a varying rate to a game engine. I.e. some things done via ray tracing, some via non-RT methods.

What if the RT could be done at a lower resolution than the overall resolution of the main game display. For example, take 1440p resolution, but the RT part is calculated at 720p and then upscaled and applied over the 1440p display. That way, you would need less gigaray / tensor cores for a given resolution. A bit like using lower res textures.

If that were the case, then maybe you could adjust settings so that something like the 2070 could achieve reasonable frame rates.
 
From what I've read, it seems that ray tracing can be added in at a varying rate to a game engine. I.e. some things done via ray tracing, some via non-RT methods.

What if the RT could be done at a lower resolution than the overall resolution of the main game display. For example, take 1440p resolution, but the RT part is calculated at 720p and then upscaled and applied over the 1440p display. That way, you would need less gigaray / tensor cores for a given resolution. A bit like using lower res textures.

If that were the case, then maybe you could adjust settings so that something like the 2070 could achieve reasonable frame rates.

A £600 card is not reasonable to upscale 720p mate. IS UNACCEPTABLE.
 
If the 2070 releases as an rtx i would have to really wonder what's in the water at nvidia hq. Top end 1 grand plus card rtx effects at 1080p, second tier card currently unknown, third tier card, forget about it.

Maybe it will render at 480p and then try to DLSS it's way out of trouble. ;)
 
A £600 card is not reasonable to upscale 720p mate. IS UNACCEPTABLE.

You miss my point. The object scene is generated in 1440p as per normal, but when it comes to things like using RT to figure things like reflections and shadows, it does it at 720p, mixing that back into the native 1440p scene. You're unlikely to notice whether a reflection on a 1440p resolution surface has been calculated 720p.

Or another way, think of it like checkerboard raytracing laid over non-checkboard scene generation.
 
I don't have much sympathy for nVidia - in any other generation the 1080ti would have been in the position of the GTX470, etc. anyhow and even adjusting for inflation and costlier production and so on more like a £500 card.

I don't either. They have been milking us for years now, but they took it too far this time imo. Question is will they learn from this and come back down to earth a little with the 7nm release or go full on bat **** crazy and further increase prices?


It has been around 3 years now since the 10 series launch and this what nvidea have to show. the 1080 Ti should be no more than £400 max! and the rest of the line up following suit.

Preaching to the choir mate. I completely agree. But at the end of the day if Nvidia/Jensen know they will sell for £600 or more, why not sell it for that price and further increase the share price? I mean since 2016 their share price has gone up over 800 percent!!! Huge markups. I would hazard a guess they could sell them for £300 and still turn a profit on the 1080Ti.
 
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Yup, several of these were in stock...and sadly...they sold.

I don't think any sold. When it went "in stock" there were 5 available, then when it went back to pre order it said 5 were due that day. Then when I bought when the price went back to normal it said 5 due that day, now it says 3 overdue. I think this as I've had this specific listing on auto refresh every minute on my 2nd monitor for the past 2-3 days.
 
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I don't think any sold. When it went "in stock" there were 5 available, then when it went back to pre order it said 5 were due that day. Then when I bought when the price went back to normal it said 5 due that day, now it says 3 overdue. I think this as I've had this specific listing on auto refresh every minute on my 2nd monitor for the past 2-3 days.


Oh they sold alright, I was on the live chat enquiring about it.
 
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