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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

bru said:
But it cannot be, it's not allowed, we cannot have an NVidia technology actually working as they said it would, that would give the money grabbing stewards an advantage that "Glory be to AMD" doesn't have and we can't have that.
It will mean the upcoming Vega2 that isn't going to be made because it a compute card god dammit, will be even further behind.
Who cares for thsee technologies that improve performance and make games look better anyway. Long live Polaris the 5th or whatever iteration of it it is. :D:p:D:p:D:p
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:rolleyes: What? What's with the lame post? And don't you know better to believe a Nvidia Marketing video? Comparing DLSS on and off between a 1080ti and 2080ti. What's the point? The bad colour and saturation on the 1080ti side combined with the Stutter makes the left hand look way worse than the right hand. Why not compare a 2080ti with DLSS on and one with DLSS off using the same picture settings.
 
melmac said:
What the hell? Why are they comparing it to a 1080ti? You aren't going to get a true picture of what the difference is.

And what's up with the terrible contrast and saturation used on the 1080ti? LOL this is marketing at it's finest.
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I agree, think I will wait for Digital Foundry to do a full analysis. I dont trust Nvidia to be honest.
 
Gregster said:
Surely I am not the only one who feels the DLSS image is better?
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cadmunkey said:
No, I think most people would agree with your opinion. Certainly looks better in that demo, a lot sharper clarity.
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the problem is that it's plainly obvious that they used different picture settings between the two comparisons. You see the video on the right has more pop, it's like the digital vibrance has been turned up more, where the image on the left is more muted. People are naturally drawn to images with more pop, its how they sell TV's. I believe Greg, you said yourself that you use a high value for Digital vibrance, so you like what it adds.
 
AMDPower said:
I agree, think I will wait for Digital Foundry to do a full analysis. I dont trust Nvidia to be honest.
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I don't trust the marketing blurb from either company. But, It just seems that they are acting very strange with DLSS. No games at launch, no proper comparisons allowed in demos, reviewers could only compare TAA with 4K and now a comparison with a 1080ti using different PQ settings.
 
melmac said:
the problem is that it's plainly obvious that they used different picture settings between the two comparisons. You see the video on the right has more pop, it's like the digital vibrance has been turned up more, where the image on the left is more muted. People are naturally drawn to images with more pop, its how they sell TV's. I believe Greg, you said yourself that you use a high value for Digital vibrance, so you like what it adds.
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Agreed. I have run the demo with DLSS on and off and do feel it looks better with the same settings using DLSS. I was surprised also but would prefer to have an ingame comparison like the one shown.

Marketing is understandable but the non DLSS image looked great anyway but just looked so nice with DLSS
 
melmac said:
What the hell? Why are they comparing it to a 1080ti? You aren't going to get a true picture of what the difference is.

And what's up with the terrible contrast and saturation used on the 1080ti? LOL this is marketing at it's finest.
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Didnt a person on here try this on 1440p and it didnt work?

If DLSS is a 4k only tech then thats a big fail for me. Why nvidia only want this for 4k such a narrow scope of usage I dont know.

Also even if the results are on a visual par, calling it 4k is misleading, clearly DLSS works by the actual rendering been at a lower resolution.
 
chrcoluk said:
Didnt a person on here try this on 1440p and it didnt work?

If DLSS is a 4k only tech then thats a big fail for me. Why nvidia only want this for 4k such a narrow scope of usage I dont know.

Also even if the results are on a visual par, calling it 4k is misleading, clearly DLSS works by the actual rendering been at a lower resolution.
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Think that was me. I was using the demo but I think in this case it's only been implemented for 4K and probably only in the full game. There are NV charts out there showing differences at 1440P but at least in FF XV it seems to be for 4K only. Disappointing yes. I tried the demo and it's not a game I want to buy anyway. If you read the instructions to use it in FF XV it mentions setting display to 4K. Fingers crossed NV get it into new releases soon for resolutions other than just 4K too. Not quite sure why the focus has been on FF XV, really? Nice looking game. At 1440P I was getting around 60 FPS using NV's recommended settings in the demo. Cutscenes were a stutter fest however, ie, when pushing the car and then the camera pans backwards and up.
Seems this is more complex to implement than some first thought.

Does make me laugh a bit tho when some moan about RTX performance in BFV, mainly those who don't own an RT card, yet in FF XV it's a stuggle to get any better (worse in fact) without RT using similar settings (ie, nearly max everything).
 
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FF15 is a focus because SE are well known for taking outside investment.

So many of their games have weird things like store exclusives etc. as they take payments to bump their profits, so its probable nvidia paid for it to be implemented. Which seems even more apparent as this is still happening after SE announced FF15 dev work stopped.

Also its promotion for the game, I can see some RTX owners buying the game just so they can have DLSS.
 
melmac said:
:rolleyes: What? What's with the lame post? And don't you know better to believe a Nvidia Marketing video? Comparing DLSS on and off between a 1080ti and 2080ti. What's the point? The bad colour and saturation on the 1080ti side combined with the Stutter makes the left hand look way worse than the right hand. Why not compare a 2080ti with DLSS on and one with DLSS off using the same picture settings.
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Oh come on surely you can see that my post wasn't serious in any way whatsoever ever.

I was just responding to Greg and cadmunkey's initial impressions.:)
 
Marketing videos are generally dodgy AF, there was a hdr comparison video done a while ago and it later transpired the non hdr screen had its settings messed with to make the hdr screen look much better than it was. Even back in the day with dvd vs vhs, some stores were showing comparisons and it was obvious the vhs quality had been messed with to make dvd look much better.
 
Gerard said:
Even back in the day with dvd vs vhs, some stores were showing comparisons and it was obvious the vhs quality had been messed with to make dvd look much better.
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This was always a laugh - watching pre film adverts for DVD on your vhs. Throwing in a few explosions to make it seem better quality. I still remember the guys voice D-V-D.
 
Gerard said:
Marketing videos are generally dodgy AF, there was a hdr comparison video done a while ago and it later transpired the non hdr screen had its settings messed with to make the hdr screen look much better than it was. Even back in the day with dvd vs vhs, some stores were showing comparisons and it was obvious the vhs quality had been messed with to make dvd look much better.
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Yeah. Nvidia rigged their SDR monitor to show their $2000 HDR looks better....

 
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