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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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I've always opted for the one down from the fastest nvidia card due to better bang for buck; since the riva TNT2. The 4400ti wwas probably my favourite 2nd rung card. However, due to the current prices I am still on my 2nd rung 970 and hoping the 3rd rung 1160 will give a good improvement. By 2025 if I am not dead from old age I guess I will be on the cheapest card of the range 
Man of Honour
You get more performance for less money now than you did 4.5 years ago, how can you argue with that?
The reason I mentioned £980 Kingpin 980 Ti cards is because the ones you chose the mention were from the other extreme and not the norm.
As to the cost of the 1180 Ti, a FE one won't cost you anywhere near £1000+ as that is not the price point for an XX80 Ti card. When it does launch you will be looking at around £700.
Above £1000 is Titan territory and NVidia will launch a cut down one based on Volta for gaming without the DP and Tensor cores that the Titan V uses and the asking price will be around £1200.
Soldato
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That is not Nvidia tho that is scalpers and retailers making quick buck. When talking prices I am talking RRP and I will wait till I can get a card at RRP.If the 1180 is £600 expect to pay over £1K if you don't want to wait, because they literally will sell out in 60 seconds flat and then be flogged on ebay for twice the price lol!
Soldato
I completely agree with you. Also you forgot Freesync TVs and monitors the consoles have support already (Xbone X & S) and future ones also. (PS5, next Xbox)
If someone goes to console forums like the official Xbox one, he/she will find many people looking at Freesync monitors to switch at the moment, and in the process they are changing their PC GPU to AMD also.
And I am on the same category as them. I want a new monitor but because still using my XBoneX & PS4Pro and going to replace them with the new lineup next year, was pointless to buy a gsync monitor. So flogged the 1080Ti Xtreme when it still had value and bought a V64 Nitro + that was on offer for £514 earlier this month brand new and not going to look back.
(that I replace my bedroom tv to 55NU8000 freesync TV has nothing to do with it
While in this forum everyone has buried the head in the sand.
Samsung is the only TV manufacturer has Freesync 2 support on some models and also Samsung monitors so Freesync 2 is nearly 2 years old now but it did not gained same mass adoption as Freesync 1. Here are now 7 Freesync 2 monitors from Samsung, Benq, Philips and AOC, Philips 436M6VBPAB is the only Freesync 2 monitor has true 10 bit panel.
Actually Xbox One supported Freesync 1 while both Xbox One S and X supported Freesync 2, but I am not so sure about upcoming Xbox 2 consoles Scarlett and Scarlett Cloud as Microsoft did not mentioned about future Freesync support but said it will take full advantage of HDMI 2.1 features with 4K 120Hz, Dynamic HDR, Enhanced audio return channel (eARC), Variable Refresh Rate (VRR), Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) and could possible add Quick Media Switching (QMS) and Quick Frame Transport (QFT) supports when it will launch in 2020, Freesync 2 had none of these features apart from VRR. PlayStation 5 due sometime in 2021 will not support Freesync 2 as Sony is one of HDMI founders will support HDMI 2.1 that they had developed it.
Guess you will need to replace your very expensive Samsung 55NU8000 in around 6 months time as your HDTV cant upgrade to HDMI 2.1 through firmware and plus it did not have Dynamic HDR, Dolby Vision, support 4K up to 60Hz only and it did not have true 10 bit panel unfortunately. My next HDTV will more likely be LG due to support all HDR formats unless Samsung back down and support all HDR formats in 2019 models and I would get Samsung HDTV with HDMI 2.1.
Soldato
I've always opted for the one down from the fastest nvidia card due to better bang for buck; since the riva TNT2. The 4400ti wwas probably my favourite 2nd rung card. However, due to the current prices I am still on my 2nd rung 970 and hoping the 3rd rung 1160 will give a good improvement. By 2025 if I am not dead from old age I guess I will be on the cheapest card of the range
Back in them days it was just the Clocks and sometimes the memory that was the differences between cards of teh same chips. That Ti4200 at the time was the 300A of its day
Soldato
You forgot the new LG lineup
When people are buying the latest Intel CPU, Asus motherboard, Samsung SSD and of course Nvidia GPU (with their proprietary tech), are you so sure you are not just building a very expensive console? One that emulates the consoles allowing you to play console games on your definitely not a console PC.
Soldato
Still more fun to build it than buy it.
Soldato
Thats the kind of logic Apples Lawers would be proud of when they say as soon as you Fix/modifiy a Mac it becomes a PC
Soldato
Completely agree with you. Is a very expensive console where the majority of the users have no clue how to write a single line in the command shell.
@KillBoY_UK exactly.
the "PC Master race" is just a very expensive console/Apple user race.
The true PC master race is using Linux....
Soldato
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Wasn’t the pc master race meme initially made as a pisstake on the people who thought they were superior.... It really worries that there are people who take the phrase seriously (and there are some it is a fact)... It paints a really bad picture of the PC gaming community.
I have loads of reasons for choosing PC over a console...... IF a console ever comes out which has all the power of a high end pc, at a fraction of the cost, which allows me to play all my games with friends on pc, with no fees for online play, and with no premium of the games, and allows me to use all my peripherals, as well as all the games which i can get on pc, along with my vr HMD, then i will buy it.
until then my pc is the only machine which services my gaming needs (but my ps4pro whilst technically fairly weak, is also great too)
Soldato
The consoles do not need the same high end spec of a PC as the games are written to the hardware. Something that can be done to the PC moving the ports straight to it, but Nvidia GPU owners will be crying about the performance.
As for "high end", you plan to replace your console every year and not every 5 years? Because the "high end" is shifting every year. The RX480 in the PS4Pro was "high end" when the console came out.
Also Sony doesn't have fees for online play, and there a big list of cross platform games. Fortnite (PS & PC), FF, Eve Valkyrie, Gow4 (Xbox & PC) to name 4 of the several dozens of crossplatform games.
Caporegime
I've always opted for the one down from the fastest nvidia card due to better bang for buck; since the riva TNT2. The 4400ti wwas probably my favourite 2nd rung card. However, due to the current prices I am still on my 5th rung 970 and hoping the 3rd rung 1160 will give a good improvement. By 2025 if I am not dead from old age I guess I will be on the cheapest card of the range
FTFY!
Caporegime
BTW,this further reinforces my view the new cards will have ray tracing support as a big feature:
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/120656-nvidia-adds-ray-tracing-tech-temporal-anti-aliasing-taa/
The sad thing,is one reason I might even consider getting a console in the future,is because more and more single player AAA RPG games are exclusives on consoles now,and PC seems to be moving towards online Battle Royale and Survival games,and leaving AAA single player games behind. Even Bethesda Game Studios is doing the same!
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/120656-nvidia-adds-ray-tracing-tech-temporal-anti-aliasing-taa/
The sad thing,is one reason I might even consider getting a console in the future,is because more and more single player AAA RPG games are exclusives on consoles now,and PC seems to be moving towards online Battle Royale and Survival games,and leaving AAA single player games behind. Even Bethesda Game Studios is doing the same!
Somehow we have different views. I bougth this console gen because i thought there would be many more exclusives. But at the moment i'm thinking that i won't buy a new console gen because there are fewer console exclusives than ever. Even a Final fantasy or Monster Hunter World is coming to PC, which were always console exclusives. It's now multiplatform everything, beside a few sony titles.
Sorry but the rx 480 was never high end but more of a mid range gpu IMO.
Caporegime
I don't like consoles due to analogue controls,just to put it out there,but at the rate AAA devs are treating PC with early access crap and everything online multiplayer games,it makes me wonder whether how long before I just have the PC for Indie games,and just get a console and put up with the crappy controls,especially if they CBA on PC with pushing the superior platform.
If you look at the last few years,there have been more single player AAA RPG games released as exclusives to consoles than PC,and when companies like Bethesda Games Studio are now going for multiplayer games. I have zero interest in Battle Royale games,and I don't need the 100th online survival game.
Games like Last of US,HZD,Death Stranding,etc - can you think of the last PC exclusive single player AAA games,especially RPGs?? You increasingly need to look at Indie studios now,and that comes with its own issues too(less developmental money so certain areas are cut back).
Even Blizzard,are now releasing more and more games on consoles too. CDPR also went that way and you see it with the controls in The Witcher 3. Even Planetside 2,yes,Planetside 2 a PC only franchise went to consoles too and was the last one I expected it to happen on.Wait until the next consoles come out - the current ones are massively limited by their potato CPU cores - the next ones will move to something like Zen(or the Intel equivalent) next gen. Then expect a good chance of WoW or EVE Online to get PC ports.
When Bethesda Games Studios,who is ONLY known for single player RPG games,now is making an online multiplayer survival game,and Bethesda is slowly locking out mod support in favour of paid mods,its sad days indeed.
Why?? Because its cheaper than having to make a proper world,with proper AI,voice actors,etc - just have real people do it.
At least CDPR actually still cares.
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Soldato
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In general the above is not true imo.....
the Gpu in my PC is far stronger than the performance of my PS4pro and yet it is 4 years old (GTX980) you DONT have to upgrade your pc every 12 months in the slightest. You are right about to the metal coding however which is why consoles punch above their weight, however the reason i have my ps4 is for exclusives. IF sony did a MS and released their exclusives on PC, my PC, which is currently getting on a bit, would generally still run the games better.
Also
Sony are making a right pigs ear of cross platform play, AND sony DOES have fees for online play, the only exception to this is F2P titles.
I dont disagree with all of this however there ARE either exclusives games on pc OR games which are significantly better on pc than console.
VR for me is the number 1 reason I game now so there is a huge list of PC only stuff there and even the multiplatform stuff is far superior on the rift than the PSVR.
That said like i said i do not entirely disagree and the reason i got my ps4pro was for exclusives, and i have 15 or so titles all of which I consider worthy of any collection (but boy do i wish they were on PC!). I will never buy a multiplatform title on ps4 however.... it is cheaper to buy on PC, and on top of that invariably runs/looks better as well, and like i said, that is on my 4 year old gpu which i am looking to upgrade soon.
As a PC owner I love that MS have turned Xbox into a service however rather than a console. it means I get access to practically all the xbox games, and on top of that do not have to pay for online.....
Sadly the single player game in the "AAA" space has been hit hard but this is true on console and pc. however they are still there and also, the indie devs have made some really quality titles now to take up the slack.
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