Some at Conservative HQ is pretending to be a 13-year old girl in an attempt to combat #milifandom. Creepy and weird.
Poll: General election voting round 4
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And i'm tired of left wing nutters saying UKIP are Nazis
Please keep voting for UKIP & lead the way to a Labour victory.
Go out into the streets, campaign & prevent a referendum on the EU. As for every 10 UKIP voters you convert, the Conservatives drop against Labour - split the right wing vote & I'll be laughing with my communist hippy socialist pals come election time.
Well done, you got sucked into the Tory propaganda machine to ensure the Con/Lab comfy establishment never changes. I don't believe Cameron for a second over the referendum and the only way we're going to get it is a heavy UKIP presence in the commons
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But in a sick twisted way I hope another party get in and when they don't do any better than the Cons all the people complaining about the Cons now will start complaining about whoever is in charge...
Simple truth is you cannot please all of the people all of the time and pleasing most of the people most of the time is also pretty damn near impossible.
This is the bit I never really get about UKIP voters, not only are they actively pushing Miliband into #10 but they are also going to be responsible for making sure the is no EU referendum in the next five years lol.
If the is another hung parliament (which is almost a dead certainty at this point) then it will result in a Lab/Lib coalition. Labour have ruled out an SNP deal, the SNP would never deal with the Tories, and Labour will be the Libs first port of call for a coalition like it was in 2010. Miliband isn't going to say no to a deal that would make him PM, not after five years of leading the opposition.
The only possible things that could change the outcome at this point would be if in the next week Miliband got revealed as a sex offender, which is unlikely. Or if Farage appealed to every UKIP supporter to vote tory instead in exchange for a cast iron guarantee on an EU referendum, and they obeyed him. And that isn't likely either as he is a narcissist not an idealist.
I think there are still a large amount of people out there voting for parties based on out of date stereotypes and biases. Quite a few people I have spoken to are voting for people, yet really don't understand the policies of the party they are voting for.
Scotland feels worryingly like it's going to be a repeat of the referendum. Except the majority of voters who voted yes will vote SNP and everyone elses votes will be split between everyone else.
Scotland feels worryingly like it's going to be a repeat of the referendum. Except the majority of voters who voted yes will vote SNP and everyone elses votes will be split between everyone else.
People on here are probably of a higher average intelligence than most other forums and general polling. Hence why people apply logic rather than the usual "I don't like the conservative posh nobs" or "I don't like how Miliband eats a sandwich" nonsense.
I'm not traditional a conservative voter myself but its hard to deny that compared to the last Labour government they are doing a better job. Now maybe that's the the global economic cycle/situation we are currently in helping the conservatives rather than their own making. But either way in Wales we have a labour led Welsh Assembly, and the nonsense and mess they are making of things here just confirms my fears of another labour government right now.
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Yougov has shown a progressive swing away from the SNP. I think they had around 48% in early March, then 46, 44, 42 and now they are on 40%. It's still likely to give them the lions share of Scottish MP's, but the reality is the Unionist parties still have the majority.
The problem in Scotland is that people who wanted independence are probably going to vote SNP, whereas the Unionists are split amongst three parties. FPTP does not help us in this regard.
Probably the best thing to do in Scotland (at least for the Scottish parliament) is to form a 'Unionist Alliance' party or some such. This would basically lock the SNP out of government in Holyrood.
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Are we looking at the same forum?.
I suspect you're kinda right, but Labour are still likely to need SNP support. A Lab/Lib coalition and a 'confidence and supply' arrangement with the SNP seems most likely at the moment. If current projections are anything like correct, the Tories can't get anywhere near 326 no matter who they befriend.
To be honest, I expect the next government is going to be very unstable, and it'll be the last coalition for some time. Projections are hinting at one hell of a mess. The existing coalition worked because they held a decent majority, and the Lib Dems were dedicated to staying the course. There will be no decent majority this time. Any government is likely to be a minority, regularly looking to the opposition for support.
This is one of the major players in my decision making too, I live in the north and over the last five years the actions of the Labour government in Cardiff have done much more harm/damage to us than the actions of the ConDems in London.
Yeah, that was my point. I think you are right, FPTP really is quite damaging. I'd really like to see a change in the voting system used. It really doesn't work anymore, given how the support of parties has changed in the last few decades.
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Still Conservative, expecting a modest majority this time due to the conservative vote mobilising to avoid another coalition.
In my working life I have had Heath, Wilson (twice), Callaghan, Thatcher (thrice) Major, Blair (thrice), Brown and Cameron as prime ministers. What a bunch.
In my working life I have had Heath, Wilson (twice), Callaghan, Thatcher (thrice) Major, Blair (thrice), Brown and Cameron as prime ministers. What a bunch.
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A labour libdem coalition could work if between them they have more MPs than the Tories as there's no way the SNP could side with the Tories without screwing themselves.
What have they done?
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more of the same please would be fine with me. Seem to have done OK, by that look at the financial state of Europe whilst we have started to bumble along quite nicely
What does that make you?
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