Can officers on foot stop a 1+ tonne brick going 50+mph?Seemingly Surrey Police were being criticised on Twitter recently for having armed officers at Christmas markets (I deleted my account a while back so I can't see the replies). I wonder if those people will have changed their tune now.
Surrey armed police at Christmas markets 'routine foot patrols'
Surrey Police came under criticism for the decision on social media.www.bbc.co.uk
Germany Christmas Market Attack (Magdeburg)
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Caporegime
According to a lot of members of the black community, yeah, just shoot out the tyres, defo not the driver though.
The London Bridge and Westminster Bridge attacks in 2017 involved a vehicle and edged weapons, as did the attack last year in Nottingham. In the case of the former two the perpetrators were shot by police before they could do any further harm.
What political purpose?
Hanlon's Razor most likely applies to the missed tip off. Most people (and by extension companies and government agencies) are immensely stupid and incompetent.
Prevention is surely better than mitigation? Having all this security (theatre in my view) doesn't make anyone feel 'safe'.
All this dancing around the issue will only serve to cause further socio-political instability.
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Soldato
It's the old question, are they mad or bad?
Are they mad for allowing things to happen or are they bad as incompetent?
Nearly every name of these events seem to be known to the authorities before hand.
Or are there hundreds of thousands of names on these watchlists and they can't keep an eye on them all?
Soldato
This, nearly a million refugees landed in Germany under Merkel.
Caporegime
Impressive slight of hand to pretend that's the same thing as people on a watch list.
Can you imagine if that many made it to the UK? You'd be lucky to get a dentist or doctors appointment by 2027 or even a hotel room.
Soldato
I think that you need to know what the intentions of your new citizens are and their capability rather than just accepting their story at face value. This requires significant intel and evaluation. Most are not baduns but if you don't ask you don't know.
Caporegime
But i thought they were doctors and engineers?
Caporegime
Back in the real world, the NHS is massively dependent on immigrants.
Soldato
Yes with work visas and or some history of living in the UK. Undocumented migrants require a lot more input which does not always work as can be seen.
Caporegime
What does that have to do with one of your far right buddies murdering a bunch of innocents?
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Merkel had only been in charge for a year when the perpetrator came to Germany.
Soldato
Firstly I have expressed no sympathies with this scrote, far from it so he is not my buddy. Secondly you have a blinkered attitude assuming that all these guys are friendly and have no animosity with the countries they arrive in and we assume will assimilate nicely in as well. In this case it has been eighteen years before causing trouble. Undocumented migration is a different kettle of fish to those wishing to work in health care or agriculture and arriving in good order.
The forum does have a thread for this so I will leave it at this point.
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Soldato
Germany warned 3 times. Why did they ignore it?
Another good day to bury bad news? Or something else?
Another good day to bury bad news? Or something else?
I'd probably like to see if that gets reported from official sources rather than a Twitter feed myself before assuming its correct, a quick flick and I can only see a very small number of iffy looking account reporting it, not a single reputable media source from any nation.
I suspect there are a large number of potential suspects being watched in Germany, probably a magnitude greater than what were dealing with in the UK, at some point you can't keep tabs on all of them, and this guy appears on the face of it to have been a lower threat given it seems he wasn't seen as a typical Islamic/Muslim extremist.
Soldato
Here is a couple of other sources;
German Christmas market attack: Nine-year-old among five killed
More than 200 people were injured - at least 41 critically - in the attack which lasted about three minutes.
www.bbc.co.uk
Car ploughs into German Christmas market in deadly holiday season attack
A driver rammed a car into a large crowd of revellers at a Christmas market in the central German city of Magdeburg on Friday evening, killing at least two people, including a toddler, and injuring more…
www.france24.com
Here is a couple of other sources;
German Christmas market attack: Nine-year-old among five killed
More than 200 people were injured - at least 41 critically - in the attack which lasted about three minutes.www.bbc.co.uk
Car ploughs into German Christmas market in deadly holiday season attack
A driver rammed a car into a large crowd of revellers at a Christmas market in the central German city of Magdeburg on Friday evening, killing at least two people, including a toddler, and injuring more…
Yeah was just coming back to say I've since seen the same reported to Reuters via a Saudi Govt Source now .
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