@Gibbo - Vega Preorders?

[TallPaul1878]

Yep

You might make a small amount if you can grab a few to re-sell to miners.

PC gamers just won't pay those prices for the most part. The PC gaming market will just collapse, and people will find other hobbies.

No PC gamer is buying a 580 for £500. OK, there might be literally a handful. But you won't want to give up the day job

I was hoping to do a rebuild after my holiday, hoping to cash in on some Black Friday deals but with the way it's going I'm not sure what to do. My 970 is on it's last legs. The heatsink is dropping off and I have to hold it up with Lego otherwise I would probably keep it and just put it in the new build.

If prices don't look like stabilizing then I might have to consider whether it is a good idea to build at all and just get an XBox One X or PS4 Pro and be done with it.

 

[Panos]

Yep


I was hoping to do a rebuild after my holiday, hoping to cash in on some Black Friday deals but with the way it's going I'm not sure what to do. My 970 is on it's last legs. The heatsink is dropping off and I have to hold it up with Lego otherwise I would probably keep it and just put it in the new build.

If prices don't look like stabilizing then I might have to consider whether it is a good idea to build at all and just get an XBox One X or PS4 Pro and be done with it.

XboneX is better product given the 4k player, better hardware and freesync
I plan to flog the PS4pro and grab one XbX as soon as they hit market.

 

[Stanners]

Give it a rest

 

[Freddie1980]

Oh dear. Gibbo shouldn't have kept his mouth closed.

 

[Relentless81]

 

[prjwebb]

Oh dear. Gibbo shouldn't have kept his mouth closed.

8 Pack abusing mod powers again?

 

[Apache14]

Oh dear. Gibbo shouldn't have kept his mouth closed.

We are all doomed.... Doomed I say!

 

[Roughneck]

wanna know my take on it, all these retailers have seen the benchmarks, ie on par with a 1080 and are bricking it that they wont sell and I mean , if your a gamer you probably have a 1070/80 or a 80ti why would you buy a vega, so they are putting out mining angle to drum up interest but at 295 watts and no official crossfire support how is that going to work, ie 7 or 8 RX vega at 300 watts each, that's a mighty big psu and that's if like I said they even work in crossfire.

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Still a lot of gamers on older cards.
This forum represents fairly cutting edge, but there are plenty of gamers still on original Nvidia 6** series or AMD 7*** series cards, especially with finances these last few years (yes things are picking up again, but now we've got brexit related currency issues increasing prices), anything that potentially improves price to performance ratio on the market somehow is welcome

 

[pig666eon]

wanna know my take on it, all these retailers have seen the benchmarks, ie on par with a 1080 and are bricking it that they wont sell and I mean , if your a gamer you probably have a 1070/80 or a 80ti why would you buy a vega, so they are putting out mining angle to drum up interest but at 295 watts and no official crossfire support how is that going to work, ie 7 or 8 RX vega at 300 watts each, that's a mighty big psu and that's if like I said they even work in crossfire.

not at all, people are still buying gpus. the prospect now of vega in its infancy is on par with a 1080 with a good price behind it is great, the 1080 isnt going to be getting any better but vega has load of room to do so. you have a lot of people who want adaptive sync where amd is killing it, most people out there dont have ti money for a card and its not going to put anyone off buying one because its only 1080 perf when the 1080 is a great card. vega has room to go bigger and i think it will over time

 

[erazor51]

wanna know my take on it, all these retailers have seen the benchmarks, ie on par with a 1080 and are bricking it that they wont sell and I mean , if your a gamer you probably have a 1070/80 or a 80ti why would you buy a vega, so they are putting out mining angle to drum up interest but at 295 watts and no official crossfire support how is that going to work, ie 7 or 8 RX vega at 300 watts each, that's a mighty big psu and that's if like I said they even work in crossfire.

Mining doesn't consume same amount of watts. Miners always tweak the GPU with the optimal voltage, core/ram speeds to get the best performance out of it. A 295 watt card when it's tweaked for mining will consume around 180-200w.

Both Nvidia and AMD are moving away from multi GPU solutions.

 

[pmc25]

Mining doesn't consume same amount of watts. Miners always tweak the GPU with the optimal voltage, core/ram speeds to get the best performance out of it. A 295 watt card when it's tweaked for mining will consume around 180-200w.

Both Nvidia and AMD are moving away from multi GPU solutions.

Discrete multi-GPU, sure.

But NAVI will be multi-GPU by definition, in a hardware sense - even if applications only see the multiple dies as a monolithic entity.

It's thought that Vega is compatible with this design philosophy, so there's a possibility they clean the pipes with Vega ... but that probably only happens if they can't launch NAVI in 2018.

 

[Bonjour]

wanna know my take on it, all these retailers have seen the benchmarks, ie on par with a 1080 and are bricking it that they wont sell and I mean , if your a gamer you probably have a 1070/80 or a 80ti why would you buy a vega, so they are putting out mining angle to drum up interest but at 295 watts and no official crossfire support how is that going to work, ie 7 or 8 RX vega at 300 watts each, that's a mighty big psu and that's if like I said they even work in crossfire.

I'm not sure 'Crossfire', as such, is required for mining. It's a gaming tech. Miners will generally have risers with multiple cards hanging off them or, increasingly, an entire farm.

 

[JediFragger]

But NAVI will be multi-GPU by definition, in a hardware sense - even if applications only see the multiple dies as a monolithic entity.

From what I gather this solution will take a *lot* of driver work behind the scenes to ensure everything works smoothly. I just hope AMD put some of the mining profits into their driver division if that is the case.

 

[D.P.]

Still a lot of gamers on older cards.
This forum represents fairly cutting edge, but there are plenty of gamers still on original Nvidia 6** series or AMD 7*** series cards, especially with finances these last few years (yes things are picking up again, but now we've got brexit related currency issues increasing prices), anything that potentially improves price to performance ratio on the market somehow is welcome

People with these really old cards wont be looking to spend 500 quid on a GPU.

 

[Lustral]

I brought a 1080 FE recently , and im still tempted to get a RX Vega 64 FE when it comes out. I've had my cheeky affair with NVidia and now to want to go back to the Radeon Series , as long it performs approx to the 1080 level , i dont mind making the change back in such a short time.

 

[erazor51]

I brought a 1080 FE recently , and im still tempted to get a RX Vega 64 FE when it comes out. I've had my cheeky affair with NVidia and now to want to go back to the Radeon Series , as long it performs approx to the 1080 level , i dont mind making the change back in such a short time.

Is there a reason you want to go back?

 

[Alexrose1uk]

People with these really old cards wont be looking to spend 500 quid on a GPU.

Not sure I'd necessarily agree. I know a lot of people who buy high at the time, then run it for a good few years, before doing a big overhaul/replacement. 7950/7970 were that sort of money equivalent at the time too, so if they've got £300-400 to spend on that/got that then, why not little Vega, even if not big Vega?

Even some of my family members are similar, and one refuses to move on from a GTX670 right now until she can do a completely, worthwhile overhaul of the entire system, and then might spend hundreds, so I don't think it's as impossible as you think. GTX 670 was $399 on release too, same as little Vega is rumoured to be. Admittedly worse exchange rate now, but still.

Just because a lot of enthusiasts on these forums and other enthusiast boards refresh systems regularly, I'm not sure that's quite as true for the wider gaming market, even if they are willing to spend big when they do! I used to work in IT bricks and mortar, and I promise you people do sometimes walk in along the lines of 'I haven't upgraded for a few years and my machine is slow. What's the best you've got?'

 

[orbitalwalsh]

wanna know my take on it, all these retailers have seen the benchmarks, ie on par with a 1080 and are bricking it that they wont sell and I mean , if your a gamer you probably have a 1070/80 or a 80ti why would you buy a vega, so they are putting out mining angle to drum up interest but at 295 watts and no official crossfire support how is that going to work, ie 7 or 8 RX vega at 300 watts each, that's a mighty big psu and that's if like I said they even work in crossfire.

might have a freesync monitor at a lovely saving over the exact same version in freesync and with TVs soon to have adaptive sync- would be a good option

 

[Gibbo]

Oh dear. Gibbo shouldn't have kept his mouth closed.

LOL!