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@Gibbo - Vega Preorders?

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haroon said:
Also running gpu's 100 % 24/7 for 6-12 months are going to make them unsellable if they don't die in the process.
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I was silently watching this thread unfold but had to registered just to say this. I am surprised that on a tech based forum of all places people don't know that mining (aka working under full load 24/7) actually wears the card less then gaming or other purposes (occasional heavy load in between idling), so really if you are planning to buy a used card its actually a better to get a mining card then someone who used it for gaming. On topic i dont think 100mh/s is realistic, i think the figure will be somewhere in between 60-70 mh/s if the driver rumors are true, and if you take the current price of rx 470/80's and 570/80's i dont think its realistic to say it would be sold at a 10x markup, probably more somewhere around 25%-50%
 
dodgeme said:
I was silently watching this thread unfold but had to registered just to say this. I am surprised that on a tech based forum of all places people don't know that mining (aka working under full load 24/7) actually wears the card less then gaming or other purposes (occasional heavy load in between idling), so really if you are planning to buy a used card its actually a better to get a mining card then someone who used it for gaming. On topic i dont think 100mh/s is realistic, i think the figure will be somewhere in between 60-70 mh/s if the driver rumors are true, and if you take the current price of rx 470/80's and 570/80's i dont think its realistic to say it would be sold at a 10x markup, probably more somewhere around 25%-50%
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People seemingly hate miners, so they overlook reality sometimes is all - we all have our pet peeves ;D

Chaos666 said:
how exactly is 24/7 100% load better than occasional gaming?
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Do you know what damages components? Once you've had a second to think about it, I'm sure you'll have answered your own question.
 
Well I composed my post based on my findings off mining forums ,let's not act like mining doesn't have caveats and is risk free...

You just had a reply from someone here so it's not about hating anyone.
 
Chaos666 said:
I just don't think consumer grade components are meant to be run 24/7 like that. Especially graphics cards
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Theyre not, the msi rep on here a few years back was talking about that as well they're gaming cards meant for gaming loads not 24/7 server type loads. Obviously the above waffle is referring to heat and cooling cycles with the card constantly heating up and cooling down.
 
Gerard said:
Theyre not, the msi rep on here a few years back was talking about that as well they're gaming cards meant for gaming loads not 24/7 server type loads. Obviously the above waffle is referring to heat and cooling cycles with the card constantly heating up and cooling down.
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Well considering mining cards are undervolted, kept at a constant temperature which is usually considerably lower than gaming will hit - eg my cards, while they vary across the range - their indivudal temperatures are constant with the highest being 70C, with constant fan speeds (due to the constant temperatures) so they're not stop/starting or anything. What damaging factor are you taking into account?
 
Howling said:
Well considering mining cards are undervolted, kept at a constant temperature which is usually considerably lower than gaming will hit - eg my cards, while they vary across the range - their indivudal temperatures are constant with the highest being 70C, with constant fan speeds (due to the constant temperatures) so they're not stop/starting or anything. What damaging factor are you taking into account?
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Heat is the obvious one but if the cards are under-volted its not as big a factor, the msi rep on here a few years back was also talking about the fans being run for extended periods of time which cause them to leak lubricant and eventually fail.
 
Anyone who buys Vega 64 for mining, before I get mine for gaming, may Zeus throw a thunderbolt to your power lines, and burn your system.
Prefer having burned Vega 64s, than knowing mine is working months on slavery at your mining sweatshop...... :D
 
Howling said:
Well considering mining cards are undervolted, kept at a constant temperature which is usually considerably lower than gaming will hit - eg my cards, while they vary across the range - their indivudal temperatures are constant with the highest being 70C, with constant fan speeds (due to the constant temperatures) so they're not stop/starting or anything. What damaging factor are you taking into account?
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Cards and components of cards aren't just rated for a given number of power cycles, but also in terms of maximum lifespan/runtime, as appropriate, normally measured in hours.

Also read that a 10 degree increase in temp shortens the lifespan of certain components by a factor of 2. An idle GPU is running at a much lower temp than a mining GPU. A gaming GPU is idle most of the time (none of us game 24/7!).
 
I really hope a fair system is in place for pre-orders to limit miner purchases, been waiting for Vega what seems like forever and its my only choice with a Freesync monitor. 1 per address at minimum would seem to make sense. Hopefully AMD were telling the truth about building up a good supply of cards.
 
I just hope there's no taking the **** with pricing for a change, getting bored of launches only for the incredibly convenient "limited stock" situation to crop up like it always seems to, so stores can rub their hands in glee while ratcheting away at the price.
 
Slightly off topic, but on the subject of GPU degradation, I remember that linus did a test a little while back with an unused GTX 480 vs a well used GTX 480


Think he found that for the most part used and new perform the same.
 
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