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@Gibbo - Vega Preorders?
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@Gibbo so any chance of a deposit system set up?
Basically shut up and take my money (insert Futurama gift here)
I'd be happy to do this too even if it's a few hundred deposit to have one held back, I visit here everyday so it wouldn't have to be held for long.
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It's not always about not being able to afford, as I highlighted before, a lot of people just run thier old systems into the ground/want to 'get there moneys worth'. Trust me, when I worked in bricks and mortar, I saw it a lot, even people who gamed daily. Not an issue to them spending, just didn't want to until a complete overhaul came round that was worth it or they felt they'd got moneys worth out the old setup, even if that meant it was tired by the end.
I'd say with Ryzen now here and the affect that has had on the CPU market, there are a lot of such rebuild/overhauls happening at the moment.
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I'm afraid yet again your spouting drivel
I had a 290, kept it until November 2016 when I sold it and bought a 1070 which I will be giving away to purchase a Vega card, I have a Freesync screen and that is reason enough alone to go back to AMD.
Only in your mind does your scenario play out, much like most of the nonsense you continuosly spout and shout about in many AMD focused threads.
I'd like to know how much Nvidia pay you to shill so hard for them? Because surely your not just doing it without pay? That would just be staggeringly ridiculous and extremely small minded if so...
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Always have been with team red, and not really got on with the tweaking of my 1080 using afterburner. The 1080 is my 1st green card since the FX5200 days.
If I get around £450 for it , I'll be happy , not much loose to have a play for a month . Well all depends on the cost to us for the RX Vega 64 FE
There is certainly some people like that, but ti is mostly a financial issue. They dont; want to pay to get a new system each year, which makes sense, but these people are much less liekly to spend top dollar although i accept some will.
Sounds like you are describing me.
I recently overhauled my system which I hadn't touched for nine years. I"ve got a Ryzen setup now.The only thing I haven't replaced yet is the GPU because the prices shot up a few days before I was due to buy a 1070. Then I thought I'd see what AMD had to offer with Vega. Now I'm just waiting for the prices to drop to something approaching normal. I'll buy the best I can realistically afford & plan to keep it for a good few years
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True. One of the reasons selling the 1080 last year, was because the terrible NV Drivers.
Took them 2 weeks (and 4 driver releases in the period Sept-Oct 2016) to fix the damn issue with the animated gifs. So even FB wasn't working properly or crashing.
Took them 5 months (June - nov) to fix the flickering on some 144hz monitors like the 2730Z. We all had to run them at 120hz, while the official forum run rampant with complains.
Drivers after end of August to November (when sold mine), were losing performance on every release and that was reflected on the benchmark scores. Was a period had the card watercooled and working at 2190 core. And every driver was dropping the scores and fps to a total of 8% around November. Got annoyed and sold it, going back to the Nano briefly and FuryX later. And haven't regretted it.
Why you believe not a single GTX1080 hasn't beaten my GPU benchmark scores in this very forum since last year? Only lost to a 11Gpbs 1080 this April on Spy by couple of points.
Because last August drivers were the best ones to use. After then perf dropped.
On the other hand FuryX/Nano are different beasts now compared to June 2015. AMD UEFI bios helped a lot on overclocking almost to 1200 core with the AIO, and driver performance almost added a 20% over the 2 years.
The December 2016 drivers added a flat ~7% perf across the board on the FuryX/Nano.
And not going to the other details why AMD drivers are superior. Like the passthrough of GPU on windows VM from Linux, without losing perf. Allowing to switch fully to Linux for everything but gaming. While NV drivers raise error and crash, because (according to the error message) they realised the system is running in VM which isn't supported.
Hence regardless my posts about the Vega perf, which isn't that far than my FX at 1190, I will buy one because it looks great product with great potential and it will be supported until the end of times...
Hell just in April AMD added support for AWS on the FX. The lack of many were bashing AMD in here for, since October.
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I'm glad you have a sense of humour!LOL!
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I doubt kids could afford that much
I think like their implementation of 'glued' dies with CPUs, the really hard part is designing the new interconnect and bus. I assume what they use for GPUs will be a higher bandwidth cousin of Infinity Fabric. At this stage interposers are certainly not new ground for them.
Firmware probably plays a bigger role than drivers in what you're suggesting. Making sure the drivers see several clusters of shader units, rather than discrete dies.
I may be wrong, but I don't think the drivers are likely to be anywhere near the most difficult bit. They seem to have done an outstanding job with the Zen family, so I see no reason to doubt them with NAVI. Plus it's the first architecture which Raja has been overseeing since its inception, since his return to AMD. Fiji, Polaris & Vega all existed before he came back.
Not sure what they are doing with Navi sounds like the first generation won't be a full on MCM type implementation but lay the groundwork internally for it.
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I doubt the little ones will have the money for such toy's, As for the miner's that's a different story
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I doubt kids could afford that much
Just spotted it. I'm going to leave in
Oh bugger, beaten too the punch again, drat.
Not to promote mining here but I don't think mining is that interesting unless you do big 12+ gpu rigs and even at the current Ethereum rates your looking at a long ROI plus the problems that arise with having so many cards linked via risers ect (Risers dying in mining systems is not uncommon)
So taking todays rate which is around $220 with the following rig this is your potential return:
6 x Vega 64 @ 70 MH/S = 420MH/S = about £450 profit a month depending on which methods used and their respective fees...
If we assume AMD is going 1:1 here your looking at a £3.5k set-up or a ROI of around 8 months!
Depending on the rate at which your selling it could be half or double the amount of time, Ethereum on June 13 was at it's all time high at $391 and within a month on July 16 it lost less than half it's value at $149!
Might as well just buy and trade the currency and avoid the hassle...
Also running gpu's 100 % 24/7 for 6-12 months are going to make them unsellable if they don't die in the process.
So taking todays rate which is around $220 with the following rig this is your potential return:
6 x Vega 64 @ 70 MH/S = 420MH/S = about £450 profit a month depending on which methods used and their respective fees...
If we assume AMD is going 1:1 here your looking at a £3.5k set-up or a ROI of around 8 months!
Depending on the rate at which your selling it could be half or double the amount of time, Ethereum on June 13 was at it's all time high at $391 and within a month on July 16 it lost less than half it's value at $149!
Might as well just buy and trade the currency and avoid the hassle...
Also running gpu's 100 % 24/7 for 6-12 months are going to make them unsellable if they don't die in the process.
@Gibbo so any chance of a deposit system set up?
Don't worry, if OCUK good at anything it is taking early deposits for GPU's
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