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@Gibbo - Vega Preorders?
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Caporegime
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I'm sure he's not the only one who's been cracking one off to Vega (pre-benchmarks of course).
If we don't do *something*, miners get them all, and everybody loses.
What's your idea?
Soldato
My suggestion was nothing more than a way for Gibbo to restrict access to the voucher codes for gamers only sub forum. The idea of long term members with low posts counts having access is perfectly valid.
I would suggest as follows
I would suggest as follows
- Read only forum, where Gibbo can post deals/vouchers for gamers only.
- Access to this sub-forum is restricted to members who are pre registered for a reasonable period.
- Customer account must be linked to your forum name.
- One GPU per household/member.
- To avoid NDA breach, sub-forum is only accessible/visible at time NDA lifts.
Soldato
Surely you are joking with this nonsense?
How about a loyalty quiz too? A raffle? An essay? Genetic screening? A race?
How about clicking on 'buy' when the card sale goes live and then checking out like normal people would. I think life will still continue if you don't manage to grab one in the first batch
Why are 'gamers' and considered more worthy consumers than 'miners'?
Caporegime
Why go to all that bother when he can just list them and sell out in seconds, he's a businessman at the end of the day and whilst I appreciate him keeping in touch with us on here it makes no odds if a few people cry he didn't get them one over someone else.
A GPU can be used for whatever task you please, you aren't above others just because your preference is to game with it.
A GPU can be used for whatever task you please, you aren't above others just because your preference is to game with it.
Soldato
Gamers had there time and they blew it, they abandoned AMD and now AMD have abandened gamers.
Repeat business is why you'd want to keep gamers on side.
OcUK scoring brownie points with gamers means they're more likely to shop at OcUK for other stuffs. Miners aren't going to need as many PSUs, motherboards, keyboards, mice, OcUK branded mugs.... etc.
Gibbo has said they're toying with ideas for making sure these cards are able to be bought by gamers. He had no need to say this, esp if he wasn't being sincere. He could have just said nothing. I'm inclined to believe that Gibbo sees merit in keeping gamers happy.
Associate
What about people like me who like to read and laugh at the shenanigans but don't have much to say? I'm an AMD fan and hope they can provide a great product, maybe we need to do some sort of allegiance video and post it so we get preference... P.S. I will mine when I don't game, does that make me a baddie?
Caporegime
He'll get plenty of repeat business from miners and I'd argue it would be just to keep some forum members happy, far more people buy from OCUK without being a forum member.
Will you be seated with your head just out of view, stroking a white cat, and laughing maniacally whilst you mine?
How "evil" you are depends on how many cards you buy, imho
Ultimately do you NOT believe that being unable to buy a GPU at reasonable prices will have a detrimental effect on the PC gaming market? Because retailers like OcUK have a vested interest in that market being healthy.
If you think mining will NOT have any detrimental effect on the PC gaming market, then I guess you won't see any reason not to sell all your stock to miners.
Don
GPU mining is temporary one has to suspect, gaming is likely to be more long term.
Associate
Will you be seated with your head just out of view, stroking a white cat, and laughing maniacally whilst you mine?
How "evil" you are depends on how many cards you buy, imho
My wife works in the Veterinary field, so getting hold of a fluffy white cat shouldn't be too hard - hell I could go all out with a white cat on a white horse in a white horse box if that adds any extra evilness?
Anyhow, the mining phenomena has most definitely had an impact already - it's effected me, it's impacting people here - it's an impact, and to assume that it will disappear within months / a year or so might be premature. Decentralised currency is certainly something that is going to gain momentum. The current world order for banking is broken - something is gaining traction and we are seeing just the beginning of it perhaps?
I just want to drink beer and shoot something in 4k resolution when I have a tiny ikkle amount of time away from family fathership duties...
I have a 1080ti but amen to that!
Josh.
Soldato
Surely you are joking with this nonsense?
How about a loyalty quiz too? A raffle? An essay? Genetic screening? A race?
How about clicking on 'buy' when the card sale goes live and then checking out like normal people would. I think life will still continue if you don't manage to grab one in the first batch
Why are 'gamers' and considered more worthy consumers than 'miners'?
It's got nothing to do with being "more worthy"
The problem is compounded by the fact that a lot of gamers (i.e. people running freesync screens etc) who have been patiently waiting a very long time for AMD to release a higher end GPU that will compete with Nvidia 1080 and 1070's to allow them to upgrade, only for a couple of big business miners to buy all the first batch and pre order subsequent batches in one swoop is rather annoying.
If miners wipe out all of the first allocation, then that will mean that the subsequent batches will be priced way above RRP due to unprecedented demand, meaning the patiently waiting gamers will be out priced and thus locked out of aquiring any for the foreseeable future.
The same thing applies lower down the GPU scale, as can be seen with the RX580, RX570, GTX1070 etc. This is locking out potential current and future life long PC gamers from accessing any part of the market.
If this trend continues and more and more gamers are locked out due to over inflated prices then it will stagnate and eventually decline the pc gaming scene, pushing more and more gamers to console only. It will also have a knock on effect on other pc gaming hardware companies that sell items like gaming monitors, peripherals etc and also a wider impact on pc only game development companies as their target market will slowly decline
Just replying to both of these. IF you truly want more competition in the PC gaming GPU market then this is a very bad attitude to have. Mining is no good for the gaming community. It pushes prices up, cards are out of stock all the time.
And neither Gibbo or AMD can take a gamble on mining, it is very fickle and the craze could die tomorrow. Mining bubble bursts, flood of second hand GPUs on the market which causes it's own set of problems.
I am pretty certain that both Gibbo and AMD would rather sell 100K GPU's to gamers than 100K GPU's to miners.
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