Golf Thread

TheCSSDoctor said:
I would agree with this to a point, but face angle will also affect the flight of the ball

In the example above, you can still slice the ball if the club face is open to the swing path, so don't necessarily expect to see a draw just because your follow through is high and right - this will only happen if the club face is closed to the path

If the instructor is even semi-decent, they will be able to explain the numbers on a monitor, what they mean, and be able to teach you how to get your swing in a better place and be able to recognise what you have done wrong if you see a particular ball flight
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Yes, you're right.
I didn't want to get too complicated though, but if you want to add some positional club face thoughts in too, crack on!
Whatever helps people learn, so you can help figure things out. :)
 
Just got back from the lesson, didn't actually get a chance to practice anything beforehand really so went in blind/from where I had been, sounds like good advice though especially after coming out of the lesson.

So was a bit unsure was to 'ask for' going in because on Friday last week it was 90% driver problems (but great round still) whilst my 9 holes yesterday was just terrible everywhere but we focussed on the driver slice anyway and turns out I was doing everything wrong, maybe not everything as he was happy with my ball position :cry:

It was indeed interesting to see the numbers, now I'm even more tempted to get a launch monitor, with the big one being that my club path was >15 degrees out to in, it stayed out to in throughout but I quite quickly got that down to ~5 or less which definitely helped. He also had me working on actively closing the club face on the way through, not sure I got the hang of this very well really but something to work on.

At setup it seems my shoulders were pointing left of target a bit, although it didn't feel it, so a big thing was changing that which felt kinda weird and wrong to start with but got a bit better even in a half hour lesson.

Hit some reasonable strikes in there as well, again more numbers but say 97mph club head speed, and a 200yd carry/220+ total (best drive to date is 206 yards total).

He also mentioned a few other things like starting the swing 'ground up', and getting the lead shoulder 'down' during the backswing (where currently I seem to keep them level-ish if anything the lead may go above the back shoulder a bit if that makes sense) but mentioned that those aren't immediately as important as club path/face stuff he had me working on.

Overall a good lesson it seemed, went over a bit and even then he let me hit a few more whilst he went to the next guy. Booked in again next week (probably won't continue every week for that long as it's a bit costly tbh but to start with...)

Also gonna try to get to the range before I play next to keep trying to practice what we went over, although I won't have the numbers but should be able to make some progress I think...
 
wow going from 15° out to in to 5° is good work. Whilst it feels funny it'll take some getting used too.

As for the shoulders. I think how you've explained it, are you swinging like it's a baseball bat? i.e. around your body?

Keep practising. Sounds like it's slowly getting there :cool:
 
That's great news!
Good clubhead speed... and efficiency will start to come up as you get used to it.
For 97MPH clubhead speed, you're gonna be looking at around 250-260 total yards maximum once its perfected, it'll will all come together nicely I'm sure, as you keep practicing.

This session of yours sounds almost identical to a lesson I had with driver. Starting too open to target, flat shoulders, not enough spine tilt to hit up on the ball. All features which are going against our efficiencies of ball striking.
It's so much fun to learn about your setup and work at ways of fixing it!

I need a lesson. I've worked on my own so much with my home launch monitor, I need someone to look at me and tell me where I can gain efficiencies in my drives.
I've gone from hitting it 200-210 almost exactly where I want it, to 230-250 but it could go anywhere :p
I'm more focused on getting faster and more efficient at this stage though, as those will see the biggest benefits for me in the long run.
 
magicroundabout said:
wow going from 15° out to in to 5° is good work. Whilst it feels funny it'll take some getting used too.

As for the shoulders. I think how you've explained it, are you swinging like it's a baseball bat? i.e. around your body?

Keep practising. Sounds like it's slowly getting there :cool:
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Maybe? I'm not really sure as I think what I think I'm doing is probably quite different to what I'm actually doing :p But yeah I think from the shoulders bit my takeaway path is more around the body than up, so yeah like a baseball swing :)

Hate being on camera but maybe I need to film it just to see what I'm doing :p
 
MarkA said:
I'm more focused on getting faster and more efficient at this stage though, as those will see the biggest benefits for me in the long run.
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There seems to be more of a focus these days, especially with kids and younger golfers, to focus on speed first and then mechanics of the swing

When I was younger it was more about the mechanics than speed, but I can see the rationale behind going for speed first as I tried a couple years ago to try and work on increasing speed and it messed with my timing and sequencing. I have picked up a bit of speed, but I seem to go through phases of struggling a bit as the speed initially increases until I get used to it and get my rhythm back
 
I've heard there's been a momentum shift in teaching young kids how to hit it far too.
I can agree with that, even though every older person I speak to on the course disagrees with me. :p :p
 
TheCSSDoctor said:
It will take time @SKILL , but if you stick with the lessons, they will be worth it in the end

Try not to fall into the trap that a lot of people do at the range where they just hit ball after ball so quick it is impossible to actually work on anything
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yeah, i used to do this, ball after ball. I used to hit 100 in like 35-40 minutes!

Now, I take around 80-90 minutes now.
 
Had a few sessions over Christmas at a local indoor trackman studio and got a few interesting insights to work on in my next lessons.

I'd previously been trying to address a catastrophic miss which was bothering me in the first half of last season where I was coming up too much prior to impact and completely duffing/topping it.

Touch wood that now seems to have been resolved, it's interesting comparing the recent numbers with data from a year ago, some things are opposite what they were this time last year.

e.g. (off the tee) my club path is now averaging -4deg which is definitely new for me as previously and in past years as well it was usually around +2deg.

Angle of attack is now fairly neutral whereas previously it was sometimes extremely up. Face to path is really inconsistent just now trending extremely open so I'm going to prioritise trying to neutralise that and the club path in the next few lessons. Will be interesting to see how that pans out but fairly optimistic for the months ahead :)
 
So with all the new drivers which have arrived recently what are peoples favourite looking drivers. Not performing as we haven't hit them personally.
I've not seen them in the flesh but visually in pictures my order would be:
  1. Stealth
  2. Callaway
  3. Cobra
  4. Titlist
  5. Ping
Cobra/Titlist are joint 3rd as personally I like the Carbon Fibre Shell on the Cobra but the Matt Black simplicity of the Titlist suits my eye.

In the flesh standing over the ball these could all change other than the Ping. Too much going on, on the top of the club for me.
 
magicroundabout said:
So with all the new drivers which have arrived recently what are peoples favourite looking drivers. Not performing as we haven't hit them personally.
I've not seen them in the flesh but visually in pictures my order would be:
  1. Stealth
  2. Callaway
  3. Cobra
  4. Titlist
  5. Ping
Cobra/Titlist are joint 3rd as personally I like the Carbon Fibre Shell on the Cobra but the Matt Black simplicity of the Titlist suits my eye.

In the flesh standing over the ball these could all change other than the Ping. Too much going on, on the top of the club for me.
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I'm in the same boat with 1-3 but switch the Titleist and Ping - TSR is a bit plain for me. I agree with the top of the Ping being a bit busy as well but think the sole looks brilliant.
 
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