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Hi, availability on the 6GB cards is pretty low, there are still some but it is really only some in whole Europe. Let me add our UK sale to see if OCUK will get them again
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Thanks for looking into it. I'd love to know whether there's just been much more demand for these than was anticipated, or if there have been other factors - limited production run in first place, memory prices? They're the perfect card for GPU rendering which is really taking off this year, pity if they're being phased out.
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Yes, for rendering it is THE card to get 
We might have to wait on an answer on this till the end of next week then we will also have more information about future availability...
We might have to wait on an answer on this till the end of next week then we will also have more information about future availability...
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Yeah I understand having been in the same position before. But one thing I don't understand is why that price gap is so big here in the UK/EU when compared to the classified cards in the US? Last time I checked in the us there was like a 60 dollar premium and yet here it's like a 150 premium
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Pricing with the cards is pretty difficult because the cost for the components is soo unstable. We do always try to get the Samsung RAM Chips on the Classy cards and you probably know what that means... and also some of the power management components go always up and down with the price. With the beginning of a chip you can produce hughe qty while you need now to watch out to sell what you produce because if new gen will launch not many people will still be interested in 780 Classi cards... Only for a reduced price and selling cards with a loss is a bad business plan Can you let me know which models you exactly compared?
Can you let me know which models you exactly compared?
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I can't say any competitor names but I guess I can say what the price is without getting banned on this forum.
Cheapest 780 ti in the UK: £450 (a zotac 780 ti oc)
Cheapest classi 780ti in UK: £570
Cheapest Kingpin 780ti in UK: £670
Price difference in the UK - £120 over a reference card for a classified (equivalent to 200$)
Price difference in the UK - £220 over a reference card for a kingpin (equivalent to 370$)
HOWEVER
In America, if you have a look at amazon (.com)
Cheapest 780ti: $670
Cheapest classified 780 ti: $710
Cheapest kingpin 780 ti : $800
Now see what I mean? The price difference in America is justifiable for the extra components, better vrm etc. but in the UK £120 and £220 premium for a classi and kingpin over the reference is mental! Fair enough there is %20 vat to pay in the uk but this needs to be paid for the reference cards too.
Those are just some observations I've made I always keep a close eye on pricing around the world.
Cheapest 780 ti in the UK: £450 (a zotac 780 ti oc)
Cheapest classi 780ti in UK: £570
Cheapest Kingpin 780ti in UK: £670
Price difference in the UK - £120 over a reference card for a classified (equivalent to 200$)
Price difference in the UK - £220 over a reference card for a kingpin (equivalent to 370$)
HOWEVER
In America, if you have a look at amazon (.com)
Cheapest 780ti: $670
Cheapest classified 780 ti: $710
Cheapest kingpin 780 ti : $800
Now see what I mean? The price difference in America is justifiable for the extra components, better vrm etc. but in the UK £120 and £220 premium for a classi and kingpin over the reference is mental! Fair enough there is %20 vat to pay in the uk but this needs to be paid for the reference cards too.
Those are just some observations I've made I always keep a close eye on pricing around the world.
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Well generally in the US it is mostly about much bigger qty then here in Europe and the shipping cost to EU from Asia are much more expensive then to US. A boat to the US takes two weeks while it takes 6 weeks to us, same gap if it is about planes. Generally that gab is pretty big. In our online store the gap between ref and classy is 75 EUR and the one between classy and KP is another 75 EUR. So this would be 120GBP between Ref and KP. When you do a comparison like this you should also use a EVGA ref card but in that case it will probably not make much of a difference... Comparing pricing between EU and US is always pretty tough, at this end it do also matter how much it cost to run a business (buildings, employees, daily cost.... ) If you sum this up for us, the distry and the re/etailer the gap will also become smaller again. There are also hardcore warranty laws in Europe which need to get covered, the more expensive the model is the more cost we do have in replacing the units over a longer periode of time and specially the stores!!! In the US you often see 30 days warranty from the stores and the rest is down to the manifacturer. While you can here show up at least 1 year in the UK with the faulty product at the store and they need to take care, in germany those are two years... Lets say a card get faulty after half of a year the UK shop need to pay people who care about this and at least the shipping cost to us. lets just say 20 bucks for this, then this are 20 bucks the shop need to earn somehow while the store in the US do not need to care about... All in all EU/UK seller do not necessarily earn more money just because the gap is bigger...
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Or you could say we are paying extra for the 11 months of insurance which we may or may not have to use.
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Fair enough, I never knew there were so many variables that come into play in the EU and that drives the costs up but I still feel retailers in the UK are ripping customers apart.
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Well, they do also need to prepare themselve to survive the whole warranty periode, also if they do not sell new cards... Will also not help if they make a superawsome price on products and go bankrupped within 3 month, then the good price you paied is also not that good anymore specially with the UK, we have crazy shipping costs from germany, other manifacturer have their RMA base in east Europe which makes it even more expensive.. I can understand your point if you just review the price of the product but things in the EU and even more in the UK can become really complicated and companys do also still want to earn some money...
specially with the UK, we have crazy shipping costs from germany, other manifacturer have their RMA base in east Europe which makes it even more expensive.. I can understand your point if you just review the price of the product but things in the EU and even more in the UK can become really complicated and companys do also still want to earn some money...
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Hi Dom you posted this in other thread (regarding 780TI 6Gb):
Out of interested is this strictly down to a business decision by the board partners themselves or does such a card need to be sanctioned by Nvidia first before you can produce it?
Out of interested is this strictly down to a business decision by the board partners themselves or does such a card need to be sanctioned by Nvidia first before you can produce it?
Hi Dom , i dont suppose you could have a read through this thread -http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=26794073&posted=1#post26794073 and give me an opinion, i dont want to waste a lot of time and money on an RMA if its only going to be returned to me .
Many thanks
Ed
Many thanks
Ed
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Hello
I have this problem:
I have 2 780s SC, both are watercooled. One recently started artefacting heavily and died - not due to temps it was idling at 27-29 and 40-44 under heavy load. This is already second 780 that have same issue, I guess it's a corrupted memory. But now is funny thing. Second card have lower stock speeds, despite being same model ( evga gtx 780 sc w/ acx ). This one had higher and died within a month. Not sure if this is related.
Anyway, I will send it for replacement/fix under warranty and hooe all goes well, because it's already second one.
I have this problem:
I have 2 780s SC, both are watercooled. One recently started artefacting heavily and died - not due to temps it was idling at 27-29 and 40-44 under heavy load. This is already second 780 that have same issue, I guess it's a corrupted memory. But now is funny thing. Second card have lower stock speeds, despite being same model ( evga gtx 780 sc w/ acx ). This one had higher and died within a month. Not sure if this is related.
Anyway, I will send it for replacement/fix under warranty and hooe all goes well, because it's already second one.
On some GPU types the board partners can do as they wish. But on a 780Ti that would need NVIDIA approval as a 6GB 780Ti would kill NVIDIA's market on Titan Black.
Hence why its not happened.
We have three left and cant find any more:-
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-253-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1341
Soldato
These were always going to be a pretty limited run from the get go
Soldato
Lol thought as much thanks for clearing that up.
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The problem is if you buy for a sil set up and one of them go`s bang a few months into the future are you going to be able to a replacement.
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Dominik, Ive just bought two EVGA titan blacks and my intent was to buy the extended warranty when registering them
and to water cool them including a back plate , upon opening the box I see a sticker on the pcb with the serial number and a message saying *warranty void if removed* is it safe to leave this sticker on there when I put on the back plate, id imagine that would be a fire hazard?
and to water cool them including a back plate , upon opening the box I see a sticker on the pcb with the serial number and a message saying *warranty void if removed* is it safe to leave this sticker on there when I put on the back plate, id imagine that would be a fire hazard?