*** Grand Theft Auto IV - The Official Thread ***

It really sucks at the moment I cant play it, the only other thing I can think of doing is going downstairs and trying game mode on the tv, apparently that solved a lot of problems somehow :confused:.

Faffing about on this game I might aswell be on a PC at this rate!

i use game mode on my samsung tv and it looks great !
 
Any idea if any settings in the setup can cause this?

Also is it true the xbox360 version runs at higher res than PS3? apparently the PS3 version is 640P upscaled.

That has still not been confirmed and even if the game is running at 640p it's not the reason why it's blurry, the game is rendered completely differently on each system, the filter was chosen to be used in the playstation version to help with the lack of AA.

This is a quote from the recent 'Grand Theft Auto IV: PS3 vs. Xbox 360 Special' from Eurogamer,


" (360) There's support for proper hardware-assisted anti-aliasing, eliminating a great deal of the jagginess of the PlayStation 3 version, plus it's running at full-fat 720p. However, Rockstar has introduced a 360-specific post-processing effect that dithers just about every texture on-screen. It's an effect not present at all on the PS3 version and serves to introduce an oil-painting-like effect to the overall look of the game, particularly on background objects. Unfortunately, it also seems to actively distort the edges of detail in the textures and occasionally looks really ugly.

As it is then, both versions of the game have their strengths and weakness. Ask anyone which look they prefer when presented with comparison shots and you'll find that opinion is divided pretty much straight down the middle"

"As it is then, it comes down to personal preference"

I always find euro gamers comparisons to be quite fair and objective, I pretty much agree with everything in their article, end of the day it comes down to personal preference as they say, if your not a fan of the blurry (filtered) look of the PS3 version then I'd definitely advise getting the 360 version as it does look allot sharper, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the better version though as some people find the 'dithering effect' on the 360 to be quite annoying also, it seems the opinion is split down the middle on which version looks most aesthetically pleasing as a whole,

one thing that isn't subjective though is the frame rate, it is definitely consistently smoother on the 360 version, I'd say on average your getting about 5 frames extra, that may not seem allot but when a game is running at such low frame rates that can be the difference between and playable and unplayable for some, (no doubt you already know this though being a avid PC user).

Hmmm I'll have to try it later, very odd this, does it look crap with game mode off?

Personally I've played about with this game on an LG and Sammy LCD and my own cheap unbranded set and thought the game looked better with the game modes off and any extra modes disabled, get the image looking right using your standard brightness/contrast/colour options then in-game turn up the brightness a couple of notches and the contrast also, also on your TV turn up the sharpness to about 50%, remember though what ever you do the PS3 version will always look a little blurry, you won't be able to eliminate that and if it's bugging you then like I said before get the 360 version,

I've seen both running and I'm really not that impressed with either graphically but as many people have already said in this thread (myself included) the GTA series has never really been about graphics, and going on their past (3D) GTA games they all ran pretty poorly in the frame-rate-wise, in-fact I feel GTA IV even with it's graphical flaws and performance issues is actually one of the best versions, if you really want to enjoy the game just forget about the graphics and performance and enjoy the game, thats what I've done and I'm enjoying it allot now, I've just told myself theres nothing I can really do to change the appearance of this game dramatically, it's never going to look how I really want it to look so I can either accept it as it is and enjoy and amazing game with a fantastic story or choose not to play it.
 
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So.... I'm probably about halfway through the game; I've got 60,000 bucks and there's nothing to spend it on :/ Of course I could buy excessive amounts of ammo... but that's where it ends. In past GTAs you could buy houses and businesses. Does this happen in GTAIV later on?
 
I only managed the snow storm mission after getting hold of a speedy car and leaving it near the building for a quick getaway...one thing i only noticed the other day is tires exploding after doing burnouts for a min or so.
 
I would forget about it but really the jaggys are something I cant ignore, I can live with the blur, its just the jaggys I really want to get rid of.

Well the 360 version does have less jaggies but there are still jaggies nonetheless, the jaggies are something you can ignore if you really want to, I'm as bad as you mate when it comes to image quality and performance, probably worse in fact, but sometimes I just have to give myself a mental slap and tell myself not to care about the IQ and just enjoy the game, just make that conscious decision in your head, the game is worth it mate, just enable 'Don't care mode' in your brain and enjoy it,

I've done this a couple of times with games that I really wasn't happy with IQ and performance wise and I ended up enjoying them immensely because I was just enjoying the core game as it should be, thats what it's all about at the end of the day, true gamers have a much higher tolerance in regards to IQ and performance, it's one of the reasons why the PS2 is still selling so well today and why the Wii is selling in it's millions, just have fun mate.
 
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Well the 360 version does have less jaggies but there are still jaggies nonetheless, the jaggies are something you can ignore if you really want to, I'm as bad as you mate when it comes to image quality and performance, probably worse in fact, but sometimes I just have to give myself a mental slap and tell myself not to care about the IQ and just enjoy the game, just make that conscious decision, the game is worth it mate, just enable 'Don't care mode' in your brain and enjoy it,

I've done this a couple of times with games that I really wasn't happy with IQ and performance wise and I ended up enjoying immensely because I was just enjoying the core game as it should be, thats what it's all about at the end of the day, true gamers have a much higher tolerance in regards to IQ and performance, it's one of the reasons my the PS2 is still selling so well today and why the Wii is selling in it's millions, just have fun mate.

Well games like UT3 and GOW without AA they are fine, its just GTA, one of those games driving around a city, I like to just drive around and admire, allthough sitting further away from the tv helps, I suppose I will have to live with it, just it was making me more annoyed when I hear its fine for other people.
 
Ive got a sultan with fully rice apparel, looks like a scooby, is the RS any different?

The fully kitted Sentinel is one of my favourites so far, handles great, has STD on the spoiler :) Sentinel Tuning Department

Kitted snetinal is the BMW M3 GTR. Love the car which looks like a viper and pops the exhaust. I gave the 360 lookalike (something GT ?) outside all my apartments, but the comet is a great car :D


Tonight and tomorrow will be stunt jump away from cops nights !
 
Sultan RS sucks. I saw about 3 on the way to a late night Brucie race so I nabbed one. Imagine my horror during mid-race when I tried to turn into the corner and went wide by a mile. So I slammed on the brakes and the thing just kept going....head on into a police car. They look nice but otherwise they're pants :)

You're just a bad driver :D
 
So.... I'm probably about halfway through the game; I've got 60,000 bucks and there's nothing to spend it on :/ Of course I could buy excessive amounts of ammo... but that's where it ends. In past GTAs you could buy houses and businesses. Does this happen in GTAIV later on?

No, GTA4 is very simple compared to the previous games, I really miss the depth of SA and VC.
 
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