Greenlizard0 Premier League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th - 18th September 2023]

adam cool dude said:
Yeah if you exclude the cup game we have only beat them once in the last 6 games.

Never the less it is more heat for the Manchester United pressure cooker. I thought things were heading in the right direction with the sale but looks like that isn't happening either.

Plus all these injuries and it is just a right mess at the moment.

The whole Sancho and Antony situation isn't helping either as I am sure Sancho is friends with many of the players so tension is going to be there between the players and manager.

Even Arsenal are not a banter club anymore. We are the only ones left.
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Athletic reported that a lot of the players are annoyed with how little effort Sancho is putting in.
 
dannyjo22 said:
He's done, not many clubs these days favour the manager over a 70m asset. ETH will be binned and the 'new slate' statement comes out.
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I think in these circumstance is quite easy for the club and fans to get behind the manager/coach over this situation because he’s been mince for the entire time he’s been there. If he was excelling then it would be totally different. Look at how they embarrassed themselves with the Greenwood situation because he had potential and had scored a good few goals at such a young age.

You’ll get away with a lot of stuff if you’re amazing on the pitch and performing On a weekly basis. Think of Hazard, Aguero, Tevez in recent times or Gaza in years go by even going as far back as Best. The line gets drawn when youre accused of rape and battering women though.
 
Reuben klang said:
Athletic reported that a lot of the players are annoyed with how little effort Sancho is putting in.
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It's been mentioned multiple times, that Tevez was the laziest player in training, but still performed week in, week out.

That is something a brilliant manager could identify and understand

Plus publicly shaming a player is not the way forward. EtH has a lot to learn.
 
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I wonder if ten hag would have treated sancho differently if the stories surrounding the guy he wanted as his right sided attacker came a few weeks earlier.
 
mysticsniper said:
It's been mentioned multiple times, that Tevez was the laziest player in training, but still performed week in, week out.

That is something a brilliant manager could identify and understand

Plus publicly shaming a player is not the way forward. EtH has a lot to learn.
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Yeh, I completely agree. However, Sancho hasn’t performed though. That’s the difference.

He even sent him to some place in the neatherlands to try and get him to get up to fitness etc again according to reports in the athletic he’s tried loads of different things with the player and taken a special interest into trying to get the best from him. Nothing has worked.

He’s most Likely at the end of his tether with him and the only thing he can think of is to say it to the media to try get a reaction from him. Like everything else though, it’s not worked so makes no difference.
 
C Kent said:
Ferguson managed perfectly fine for nigh on 8 years , if anything you can probably trace the start of the issues to his insistence on controlling everything at the club.
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Similar happened when Sir Matt retired. Suddenly the one person who had control over everything (or nearly everything) was gone and there’s a power vacuum left at the club. UTD, again, have filled most of that vacuum with garbage.
 
mysticsniper said:
Plus publicly shaming a player is not the way forward. EtH has a lot to learn.
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It leads to downfall almost all the time when your not top of the league.

I'm of the camp that managers should be able to do it, but I've also spent enough time in primary schools to see kids are being brought up with next to zero mental resilience, the ability to dig in when it gets tough or push on harder. Everything is a drama and 3 seconds later the parents are complaining about their child being bullied. It's great that I've seen zero fights in nearly 10 years, but I've seen very little mental strength. Easy times leads to softness. Football managers have to also be aware of how mentally weak so many of these players are now and half expect them to fold up if criticised in public. They don't even play with their local teams anymore, they are whisked off at such a young age to be told how wonderful they are.

If its get's tough play the trump card. Fair play to Maguire for sticking it out.
 
I don’t like Newcastle but no way that was a foul. Shocking VAR decision.

It’s rubbish you can’t celebrate a goal in the moment now but have to wait for a check.
 
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Why is the refereeing and VAR so poor this year?

Joke from the Brentford keeper there. No need to give a penalty, wasn’t even a realistic chance of scoring.
 
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