Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [15 - 17th December 2012]
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Mate I don't think it is conceivable you could get to 30 and be this thick.
It is obvious why always the victim has been a dig at Hillsborough/Heysel long before whenever it became this forums favourite post match comment towards Liverpool.
I think it wouldn't be much for you to go out of your way not to use it and construct one of your own sentences, relating to our perceived complaining of decisions.
Probably includes training matches
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^Step away from the keyboard Purdy, you're heading for a suspension noob!
i heard the ''always the victim'' chants shortly after the hillsborough verdict and also not having a game postponed due to the anniversary (or something along those lines) but the word victim used in here is in no way attached to that. it's a combination of more recent events on the pitch and some comments such as ''every break of the ball'' and ''i don't know what we have to do, to be awarded a penallty''.
by linking everything to hillsborough, you just sound paranoid and victimised. oh wait!
ftr. i would never in a million years use a disaster or incident where life was lost to mock. spurs have been on the recieving end of plenty just as i'm sure many fans have dished it out too.
This is the thing that confuses me. The football being produced by Liverpool is massively mediocre at best; it is a one man team; a duo of bizarre, bitter and egotistical managers; crazy owners; terrible transfers... and yet it is the penalties that are the problem!
It is delusional.
The victim jibe comes from the fact that rather than realising there is a cartload of problems in Liverpool, it is the refereeing decisions that are the real nub.
As I said in my edit I could use WAAAAAAAAAAH (and I may switch to that) to the same effect.
Edit- I also though that the jibe originated from attacks at scousers (as a whole) rather than Hillborough.
Alright, it came long before then, or are you just pleading ignorance as a reason to accept it doesn't have any meaning to that at all?
Wouldn't try getting away with saying ****** and saying you thought it meant silly billy because you hadn't heard it before. @cm not snax
Wouldn't try getting away with saying ****** and saying you thought it meant silly billy because you hadn't heard it before. @cm not snax
He's central to everything Rodgers wants to implement. A lot of what he and Lucas do overlap but so do Busquets & Xavi's roles at Barca, and Xavi & Ineista's too. All 3 of our midfield need to be able to win the ball back, keep possession and then create but the balance between the 3 is slight different with each player. Lucas priority is winning the ball, then keeping it and then finally creating. Allen's is keeping the ball then winning it back and creating joint 2nd. The final midfielder's responsibilities are to create/attack, then keep possession and finally winning it back.
If you're being picky, he's probably too similar to Lucas and needs to offer a bit more going forward but that's only highlighted because of our other attacking problems.
The role Allen does is the least impressive on the eye but about as important as any in what Rodgers wants to do. Even in his worst games, he's still done a job and with the likes of Sterling in the side, it's easy to forget that he's young himself. I'm sure he'll be a pivotal member of the side for years to come.
see this is the problem I have with the 'victims' rubbish that gets spewed out, you cant claim to be a football fan of the age of 30 or whatever, and not heard it prior to this year. Its just not possible
Its in direct relation to Hillsborough, every poster here knows that and yet its still thrown out every day, knowing how it effects Liverpool fans.
Its done to get a rise.
So wait, you are saying none of our fans our consistently complaining about our players/owners/**** transfers? Or are you just picking part of what we complain about and saying that is all we complain about? Because I sure as **** know I complain a lot more about our shocking team, transfers and sacking of a certain manager than ******** refereeing.
Is correct, perhaps not Snax, you seem a decent guy.
Cm i have no quarrels with saying he is happily doing it knowing it'll get a rise due to what it originally referenced with your continually baiting/trolling each week. (Mind you thinking something through that much might be a bit out of the question.)
No, but you're using it to get a rise out of people (as you know exactly how people feel about it) because you have an obsession with having digs at liverpool constantly, come on man you can work this out.
I just don't see that allen he has what Xavi does myself, it could be argued that the injury to Lucas has stopped him from showing this side of his game, but if thats teh case surely BR needed to let him play his natural game and not be shoehorned into a role that isnt his own?
purdy, if you and your manager stopped acting the victim, there'd be no need for the word.
today, swansea played an excellent defensive game against us and probably deserved a draw. they lost by a goal that could quite easily have been called offside.
i don't hear any swansea fans (and i know atleast one posts on here) bleating on about it.
yesterday, liverpool didn't take their chances and had maybe one limp appeal for a pen though to me, it looked like the liverpool player had just as much of the villa players shirt. who's fault is that?
so you haven't been awarded a penalty all season? big deal. try finding the net and you wouldn't need to rely on them.
but of course, you know all this.
All of the fans I have as friends do what Liverpool used to do (admirably), which is bunker down and support the club/manager through a bad patch but here it has gone from realistic support to blind rantings. I genuinely encounter fans who think that Liverpool would be first if referee-ing decisions went their way and will swear blind to that.
Every team gets bad decisions. The real issue is whether you deal with them during the match or throw a wobbly, lose the match and complain afterwards.
I don't know whether it is my own gut reaction or reality that Liverpool managers NEVER lose gracefully/lose without complaining about a decision they didn't like. My perception is that Dalglish and Rogers are number one offenders for complaining about decisions they don't like and making that the focus of their interviews. Even Wenger seems to be better than them!
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I didn't say Allen was like Xavi, although there are similarities in how they play. I made a comment about how Xavi's role is half way between what Busquets does and what Iniesta does. Allen's role is or should be half way between what Lucas does and what our 3rd/most offensive midfielder does.
As for Lucas's injury and Allen subsequent role. Absolutely not. With Lucas injured Allen had to move back into the most defensive position. He was our best possible (and only) replacement in that role and we had other players that could fill in his role.
Get better friends then as they are dumb
, I can't imagine on fan on here thinking we would be first even if we had got every single decision, we simply haven't put the ball in the net enough.I'll complain about a decision if we lose, doesn't mean I flat out think it is the reason we lost, 9/10 it is because we have the finishing ability of Fernando Torres