The north is better, you just dont know it.
Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th - 22nd August 2011]
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The north is better, you just dont know it.
I don't understand this post, you moan about the goal scorer, who also got an asisst and then another player who got a goal?
Are you suggesting that if a player scores a goal or gets an assist he cannot be criticised?
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Welbeck deserved criticism at half time but his second half performance was fantastic. As was said by Fergie (I think) after the game, the goal gave him the confidence he needed to really get involved and he looked much more composed on the ball for the remainder of the match. I thought the whole team played pretty well but Jones, Smalling, Anderson and Welbeck stood out for me, they were fantastic. I'm looking forward to the Arsenal game at the weekend as it seems like a great time to play them, I'd be very surprised if it's anything other than a home win 
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Thats almost gospel around here, Song didn't get sent off/arsenal didn't concede, this was proof for almost two years that he was the best DM in the league, yes multiple Arsenal fans suggested this, and lots of other guys on here suggested he was very good, most now mock him(deservedly).
Welbeck simply wasn't involved in the first half at all, so I won't criticise too much, I don't really remember all that many mistakes from him, I simply barely remember him touching the ball, sometimes a player is bad and never gets in space, sometimes its entirely not his fault. The second half, he was also crap up to the goal, which he took well but wasn't mindblowing in its brilliance, the cross was better than the finish. AFter he scored, it was like his twin brother was on instead of him. His touch for the Anderson goal was, well, utterly fantastic. Likewise Andersons goal really doesn't make up for the fact he was barely average throughout.
VDV was a lot worse in that kind of area than Anderson was good.
Pretty much, a LOT will depend on Wilshire being back to be honest, he's not so good that he can take on Utd himself, but he's the missing link that can release RVP to stay upfront and get on the end of great passing, he's strong at winning the ball back(which will make one person in midfield) and he can keep posession well. The team simply doesn't work at all without a Wilshire/Cesc type player in central midfield, I've said before, preseason we often played 45mins with Wilshire, and 45mins with Nasri in the same role, it was night and day, like two entirely different teams. Wilshire's 45mins mostly had us scoring or in the lead while Nasri's often had us conceding and looking like turd.
IF Wilshire still isn't back, I think it will take a miracle to win, actually, I think it will take a miracle to not lose by a bigger margin than Spurs did.
Yeah I think the sooner Wilshire comes back the better, I still think one goal will decide it either way, remember last season at the Emirates, not many people saw an Arsenal win there either but you pretty much outplayed us and thoroughly deserved it.
I know Arsenal are a much changed team now but underestimating them is a big mistake.
Nope it's going to be a tough game, tougher than tonight that's for sure
I hope we learnt from last season that despite how well we may be playing using 4-4-2 when it comes to Arsenal 4-3-3/4-5-1 is a must, it's tried and tested against them
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4-5-1 Seems to be the best for you lot, makes our midfield completely disappear and it cuts off all service to our strikers. I'd expect at least 2 united goals from counter attacks.
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People keep saying to give de gea more time. and this is possible, that after a lot of time he might come good.
But judging off 3 games now where he has made mistakes in all 3 and looked pretty dodge all night last night. from trying to pull off a turn on his 6 yard line (if their striker gets a trailing foot to that there's only one place the ball likely to end up. he fumbled a cross, didn't get behind another i think conceding a corner then parried a shot right back to near the penalty spot.. there cones a point when you have to accept that he isn't ready yet.
against a top side at 0-0 he could just throw it all away. its just too risky - it doesn't matter what league your in or how good your kicking is, if you can't do the basics right.
But judging off 3 games now where he has made mistakes in all 3 and looked pretty dodge all night last night. from trying to pull off a turn on his 6 yard line (if their striker gets a trailing foot to that there's only one place the ball likely to end up. he fumbled a cross, didn't get behind another i think conceding a corner then parried a shot right back to near the penalty spot.. there cones a point when you have to accept that he isn't ready yet.
against a top side at 0-0 he could just throw it all away. its just too risky - it doesn't matter what league your in or how good your kicking is, if you can't do the basics right.
Nice to see movement and pace in the midfield, nice to see players carrying the ball, nice to see someone other than Wayne running his nuts off up front, nice to see invention and proper wing play from BOTH sides of the pitch rather than just where ever Nani is.
Favorite bit of the match, people moaning for Giggs and Park to come on, they come on when we are 2-0 up and straight away mess up a simple 5 yard pass between them and Spurs go down the other end and almost score.
P.S
Berbatov, get the hint, and **** off.
Favorite bit of the match, people moaning for Giggs and Park to come on, they come on when we are 2-0 up and straight away mess up a simple 5 yard pass between them and Spurs go down the other end and almost score.
P.S
Berbatov, get the hint, and **** off.
apparently i was watching a different match.
I thought De Gea had a solid game. The turn he pulled was good as it demonstrated he had confidence. Leave off the lad.
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Yea the midfield looked good at times, but then a bit short at others but playing regularly together should help this out. good to see my seasons tip getting on the scoresheet, gilly its time to re evaluate your stance on free scoring no look pass Anderson!!
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The one where you say he didn't get his body behind and conceded a corner, if you actually watch it he never tried to hold it and played it safe palming it out for a corner. His body was behind it.
Fashionable to criticise him already it seems.
Fashionable to criticise him already it seems.
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Anderson was top tackler and our second top passer last night (After Rooney)
Changed man.
Changed man.
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Ye you must have been, he had maybe 5 things to do all game (plus catching practice from vdv long rangers) and out of those 5 things he made 3:mistakes which in a tight match could easily have cost us...
Sorry but he just didnt inspire confidence.
What were the 3 mistakes?
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[ASSE]Hinchy;19896276 said:
I think i was criticising him when it was very unfashionable to, but he keeps re enforcing the criticism. my mum could have picked that up using her oven mitts. He just has to pick the ball up there and not concede a cheap corner.