Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [17 - 19th November 2012]

Does anyone else think it's embarrassing that Adkins' job is apparently on the line? I don't think they're remotely good enough to stay in the Premiership with the players they have but half of them probably played in League One and the Championship. Two promotions in a row? Adkins deserves the key to the City not the chop.

Fans really should realise that, going up into the prem for a year, having players on a "you get more in the prem but less again if we get relegated" contract can basically mean a huge cash windfall for the team. If you "Leeds/past Newcastle" it then being relegated is a problem and you'd have been making a loss in the EPL anyway. A cheap team promoted can make a ruddy killing in the prem, even more with parachute payments even if they get relegated, and be in a much much stronger position post relegation than pre promotion.

He's done well, the team is doing well, the team has actually had a result like that coming for a while, bar the 6-1 they've been unlucky not to win a few. While the defence is a joke, they've had several chances to outscore the opposition and have been in winning positions against good teams. not convinced they are too crap to go down if they can keep scoring.

But even if they should, they should stick with the manager, realise the club could and should profit from it, be in a stronger position for another promotion run, and have more money in the bank, more experience and more confidence the next time they get promoted.

Relegation isn't failure for a team that just got promotion or a team struggling in the bottom 6 the year before, it would be failure for Utd/Arsenal/Spurs/etc to get relegated but so it should be with teams spending up to what, 5 times the wages.

It's mostly ( I assume) a media thing anyway, but enough media pressure and daft fans jump on the "he's gotta go" bandwagon and playing to a stadium chanting against you and with no belief and support, well, players will just play even worse, start putting in bad performances under pressure and it becomes a self forfilling prophecy as the manager loses control and should then go for the sake of the team.

Fans have a lot of power, most fans are stupid, this isn't a good mix :p

EDIT:- has anyone seen any numbers, I was under the impression that was it Hull and Blackpool, maybe Wolves as well were spending very little in wages, spent very little in strengthening after promotion and were part of the generation of teams that realised relegation clauses and not paying out stupid fee's in the championship was the right idea. Blackpool made a huge profit in the EPL didn't they, maybe a couple others did.

Done correctly, there isn't really a reason you can't get promoted make an absolute killing, before going back to being a strong championship side. Its the teams who get promoted, buy exactly the wrong players(Viduka/Owen/Geremi types for big money when they aren't performing and the team can't afford it) to stay up without proper relegation clauses and get into massive debt.
 
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It can cost me upward of £200 and I'm sure it is the same for many others, so no it really isn't that simple.

I support Arsenal and it cost me £80 each for tickets for the Arsenal vs chelsea game a few months ago. thats a Cat A game as well and arsenal have the most expensive tickets in the PL.

i understand what you are saying mate but like i said, if you really wanted to see your team play, you would make sacrifices.

Each to their own but no on here can go off and question me as a supporter when i cough up £200+ on tickets each month.

im going again this wednesday my first CL game :)
 
Does anyone else think it's embarrassing that Adkins' job is apparently on the line? I don't think they're remotely good enough to stay in the Premiership with the players they have but half of them probably played in League One and the Championship. Two promotions in a row? Adkins deserves the key to the City not the chop.

To be honest most of it is paper talk, our chairman has this thing where he has a compulsive need to not really bother with the media and it has left most pundits/journalists just guessing what he wants to do. Every journalist and pundit seems to think that he should be on the line, the majority of fans/people at the club know that realistically getting relegated (just not badly) should still keep him in the job as we wont get anyone better.

Only 2 disappointments are we have dropped 13 points from winning positions (including 6 against Man United/City and 4 from Fulham/Swansea which shows how silly that stat is) and have bought 8 new players in (including 2 record transfer signings). The expectation is we should be the other side of villa by now at least, which thankfully is obtainable with this run of games till the new year.

I stand by with an extra CB, LB and RM at christmas we will have at very least a decent premier league starting 11 and have pretty much everything needed to to stay up and be successful in the league. Plenty of teams in the league are beatable at the moment and are riding on a couple of key players doing most the work (Fulham were the worst for this, lots of nobodies running about whilst we conspired to throw that away).

So yeah Adkins will be fine, if we start playing like QPR though, thats when sacking is actually on the cards.
 
Commitments like going out for drinks every Friday? Buying new video games? Upgrading your pc or buying latest tablets and phones?

No I was thinking more along the lines of Petrol to get to and from work (on average £55 every 10 days or so and this is only the costs I incur, some people have it a lot worse).
 
This is silly, it doesn't make you more or less of a fan however you choose to support your chosen team. There isn't a flipping scale. In this age we need to get past this ridiculously outdated concept that youhave to go and see them to be a 'real' fan. Many clubs have more fans than any stadium can hold and geographical issues and high costs make it a a large barrier for many people.
 
No I was thinking more along the lines of Petrol to get to and from work (on average £55 every 10 days or so and this is only the costs I incur, some people have it a lot worse).

Yes i agree. people have mortgages bills and commitments but at the same time, some of these people can afford to upgrade and build pc's buy latest games, tablets and phones and later complain they cant afford to see there team play.

If you are a person that doesnt do the above, that earns just enough to survive and live then thats fine, that is perfectly fine but if u can afford all the above examples then really you have no excuse not to see your team play.
 
Being a Spurs fan is painful.

Not as painful as a arsenal fan. 7-8 years of winning nothing :(

Showing a bit of promising getting our hopes up(beating the likes of barca at home etc) only for the next following game or two for us to lose to a much lesser team(bham, norwich etc).
 
Not as painful as a arsenal fan. 7-8 years of winning nothing :(

Showing a bit of promising getting our hopes up(beating the likes of barca at home etc) only for the next following game or two for us to lose to a much lesser team(bham, norwich etc).

Same for us, yet you still finish above us :P

We really should have had it sewn up last year. That collapse was comical.
 
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Commitments like going out for drinks every Friday? Buying new video games? Upgrading your pc or buying latest tablets and phones?

Can't afford to go out for drinks every week. Haven't bought a new game since FIFA 11. My laptop cost £300 and my phone is nearly 2 years old, and that was a free upgrade.

I try my best to get to at least one game a month but like most people we don't have a huge amount of disposable income to throw around at the moment so it's probably best not to make ridiculous assumptions.
 
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Hes been immense and so far one of our best signings this year along with the Pod. Can only imagine if RVP had stayed, the amount of goals them 2 would have created/scored.

Saying that, we arent doing too bad scoring goals without RVP this season, just our defence is more cack than last year.
 
Can't afford to go out for drinks every week. Haven't bought a new game since FIFA 11. My laptop cost £300 and my phone is nearly 2 years old, and that was a free upgrade.

I try my best to get to at least one game a month but like most people we don't have a huge amount of disposable income to throw around at the moment so it's probably best not to make ridiculous assumptions.

quite ironic how u completely ignored my last post about this subject.

Yes i agree. people have mortgages bills and commitments but at the same time, some of these people can afford to upgrade and build pc's buy latest games, tablets and phones and later complain they cant afford to see there team play.

If you are a person that doesnt do the above, that earns just enough to survive and live then thats fine, that is perfectly fine but if u can afford all the above examples then really you have no excuse not to see your team play.
 
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