I meant last season, you had a huge squad but barely used it. Who do you have out, De Jong and Milner? Don't include Hargreaves/Razak, as they wouldn't have played regardless. City should be able to have 4-5 key injuries and still field a title challenging team, yet you lose two midfielders and its ZOMG SQUAD TOO SMALLZ!!@£(!@3p12
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I meant last season, you had a huge squad but barely used it. Who do you have out, De Jong and Milner? Don't include Hargreaves/Razak, as they wouldn't have played regardless. City should be able to have 4-5 key injuries and still field a title challenging team, yet you lose two midfielders and its ZOMG SQUAD TOO SMALLZ!!@£(!@3p12
Ah.
Why not include Razak and Hargreaves? they are first team players but are injured?
We can apart from Central midfielders, Mancini hasn't complained about other areas.
Well i never said that and neither has Mancini IRRC.
No they aren't? One's been injured as long and the other ones been alive. They wouldn't have started even fit, they're new players. I think he complained about the midfield in general, so that includes wingers - even then he has a few that can easily cover. Keeping players like Michael Johnson would have been ideal - also buying some cover, which they didn't even bother to. Fulham had more players out than you guys, Jol didn't complain
OT: Did City ever actually sign Assulin?!
If Barry was injured and Razak was not he would have played. Simple as that. Hargraves would not have but will play some games this season.No they aren't? One's been injured as long and the other ones been alive. They wouldn't have started even fit, they're new players. I think he complained about the midfield in general, so that includes wingers - even then he has a few that can easily cover. Keeping players like Michael Johnson would have been ideal - also buying some cover, which they didn't even bother to. Fulham had more players out than you guys, Jol didn't complain
OT: Did City ever actually sign Assulin?!
We have Balotelli/Nasri/Silva/Aguero/Johnson who can all play on the wing so it was more defensive mid/central mid he was "complaining" about.
Keeping him is not ideal because he won't get fit at City but he can at Leicester because he can get game time.
Yes we did but once again he is a Winger not a CM/DM.
I know where he plays - just wondering if he actually signed. I doubt Razak would have played, he's like 12. You could have easily pushed Kompany forward (where hes played quite a bit) or Zabaleta, but chose not to. Either way, Mancini didn't bolster the squad enough. Especially if he's already moaning about squad size and midweek games.
Well even he is injured last time i heard :/
Well he has already played this season so i dont think Mancini would mind playing him.
Not this again, why would you move our best CB into midfield? Zaba has rarely played in midfield so again Mancini just assumed it to be better to go with our 2 fit actual midfielders.
He's moaning because we have so many injuries to midfielders and had we had more we would be ok, had we had all our players available nothing would have been said. Simple as that.
Either way the game is over now and anything Mancini would have said would have been picked up and torn to pieces.
I just hope we can now rest as many as possible for Everton next week. Razak possibly back and then we have Roman who could come in but no one knows.
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ffs, again, Zabaleta has played in midfield LOADS of times, and again you ignore the completely obvious.
If you complain about the lack of midfielders available, pushing a CB who is very good at DM into midfield, and playing one of your other defenders is what EVERY OTHER TEAM WOULD DO.
THis is life, get over it, its becoming a joke, in Arsenal's great years, Gilberto had to play CB a couple times, Eboue got moved all over the place, O'shea has played dm, rb/lb/cb, Gallas has covered at left back very ably.
Best team in the world, Busquets AND Mascherano are covering at CB.
You keep coming back with this truly ridiculous response of "why would we push our best CB into midfield".
Why, because you keep saying "we have no midfielders", its really pretty simple.
Anyway you played Barry midweek, where he failed to be epic or one of your best players, and I'm fairly sure Barry made no attempt to get back for at least one of your goals, you see him turn and seemingly move as fast as a snail when the ball goes past him(did he give it away aswell?). He was awful, you went on and on about him and Milner being missing because they were 2 of your best players this season.
Except, they weren't, and Barry made no difference in the past two games against seriously better sides than the previous easy games. Even then, lets list the players Barry WASN'T better than so far this season. Aguero, Tevez, Silva, Nasri, Dzeko, Yaya, Richards, Kompany, Hart, Clichy, etc, etc.
So saying they are two of your best players so far this season, is ridiculous in and of itself as no matter how good they've been, they are still the two worst players in the team.
The problem with City isn't lack of midfielders, its lack of the managers willingness to adapt, and the simple fact that Barry against better opposition, is crap.
You know what, its not ideal that Barca have Puyol injured, he missed almost the entire season, Abidal had cancer, they had DM's playing CB, and they won just about everything. Just because its not ideal for Kompany to play DM, doesn't mean it isn't a good option, its not the first choice, but by your own definition you have players out, first choice line up isn't available. Few teams in the world can lose someone of De Jong's quality, push Kompany in who is almost as good there, and put Toure in at CB.
Your excuses are poor, your assessment of Barry/Milners quality is vastly at odds with everyone else on earth, and your dissmissal of very viable alternative line ups because its not absolutely perfect, is beyond pathetic.
UTd have lost Cleverley, who has been FAR better than Barry or Milner, they've lost two first choice CB's, they played CB's at rb, and yesterday dropped Valencia in at right back, and still won.
If you complain about the lack of midfielders available, pushing a CB who is very good at DM into midfield, and playing one of your other defenders is what EVERY OTHER TEAM WOULD DO.
THis is life, get over it, its becoming a joke, in Arsenal's great years, Gilberto had to play CB a couple times, Eboue got moved all over the place, O'shea has played dm, rb/lb/cb, Gallas has covered at left back very ably.
Best team in the world, Busquets AND Mascherano are covering at CB.
You keep coming back with this truly ridiculous response of "why would we push our best CB into midfield".
Why, because you keep saying "we have no midfielders", its really pretty simple.
Anyway you played Barry midweek, where he failed to be epic or one of your best players, and I'm fairly sure Barry made no attempt to get back for at least one of your goals, you see him turn and seemingly move as fast as a snail when the ball goes past him(did he give it away aswell?). He was awful, you went on and on about him and Milner being missing because they were 2 of your best players this season.
Except, they weren't, and Barry made no difference in the past two games against seriously better sides than the previous easy games. Even then, lets list the players Barry WASN'T better than so far this season. Aguero, Tevez, Silva, Nasri, Dzeko, Yaya, Richards, Kompany, Hart, Clichy, etc, etc.
So saying they are two of your best players so far this season, is ridiculous in and of itself as no matter how good they've been, they are still the two worst players in the team.
The problem with City isn't lack of midfielders, its lack of the managers willingness to adapt, and the simple fact that Barry against better opposition, is crap.
You know what, its not ideal that Barca have Puyol injured, he missed almost the entire season, Abidal had cancer, they had DM's playing CB, and they won just about everything. Just because its not ideal for Kompany to play DM, doesn't mean it isn't a good option, its not the first choice, but by your own definition you have players out, first choice line up isn't available. Few teams in the world can lose someone of De Jong's quality, push Kompany in who is almost as good there, and put Toure in at CB.
Your excuses are poor, your assessment of Barry/Milners quality is vastly at odds with everyone else on earth, and your dissmissal of very viable alternative line ups because its not absolutely perfect, is beyond pathetic.
UTd have lost Cleverley, who has been FAR better than Barry or Milner, they've lost two first choice CB's, they played CB's at rb, and yesterday dropped Valencia in at right back, and still won.
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I almost agree with all of that 
Fulham doing the Poznan on Sunday, was hilarious when it happened;
That's absolutely brilliant, well played Fulham supporters take a bow
Not this again. Just give it up DM. We are not going to agree on it so why do you keep coming back with it?
Anyway, i will answer it once more.
He has not. Please get some evidence either videos or confirmed team sheets where he has done so.
So what if he is good there, he is our by far and away our best CB at the club.
Well they are two of the best DM’s in the world so its no wonder they are good at CB in a team that rarely has to defend.
I never said we had no midfielders, I said we only had two fit ones in Barry and Yaya. Mancini would have liked to have the others fit so he could rotate them.
So he has one bad game? Your not allowed to?
Well they have been two of our best players. Ask any City fan who goes to the games and you will get the same response.
Barry hasn’t been better than Kompany? Please tell me you are joking? Kompany has not been playing well at all. A shadow of the player last year. As seen in the amount of goals we have conceded.
Two worst players? Complete and utter rubbish once again from DM.
What manager on this planet would shove a player who hasn’t kicked a ball for 6 months straight into the Prem where we are already playing catchup to utd? He wasn’t exactly inspiring before the ban either.
At odds with everyone who doesn’t watch the City games and refuses to change their thoughts on the players because of their international appearances.
utd could play u18's and still win. They won Premier League trophies with O'Shea and Brown FFS.
If you want to continue this please email me rather than fill up this thread.
BTW that Fulham "Poznan" was truly awful yet they are being commended for doing it but when we do it we are slated for stealing it from Lech Poznan
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Biz, they're being "commended" for it because it is truly cringe-worthy when City do it, for someone to take the **** out of City for doing it in the first place just makes it even more epic.
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What is cringe-worthy about it?
I think it's alright. Makes a change from the usual just standing there and chanting.
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It's ridiculous. In every single way.
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He has not. Please get some evidence either videos or confirmed team sheets where he has done so.
So what if he is good there, he is our by far and away our best CB at the club.
Well they are two of the best DM’s in the world so its no wonder they are good at CB in a team that rarely has to defend.
So he has one bad game? Your not allowed to?
Well they have been two of our best players. Ask any City fan who goes to the games and you will get the same response.
Barry hasn’t been better than Kompany? Please tell me you are joking? Kompany has not been playing well at all. A shadow of the player last year. As seen in the amount of goals we have conceded.
If you want to continue this please email me rather than fill up this thread.
BTW that Fulham "Poznan" was truly awful yet they are being commended for doing it but when we do it we are slated for stealing it from Lech Poznan
Okay to start, http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Match-reports/2009/January/City-v-Wigan-Athletic-17-Jan-2009
From pretty much this game till end of season he started in midfield, thats Europe, against Arsenal and Liverpool in the league and most of those games, theres a couple he drops in for Richards, first half of the season Zab mostly played left back with Kompany in midfield, second half was mostly reversed, Kompany CB, Zab midfield.
He's played there dozens of times for you, this is fact, yet you seem not to know it.
Why would you play a great CB in DM, why would you play a great DM in CB, because thats how Kompany started playing CB for you. When the TEAM is stronger by putting him in DM, then you do that. Whats strong, Kompany in DM and Toure in CB, or Kompany in CB and random youth player Y in midfield. Yeah, sometimes it makes perfect sense to shift someone to a different position for the strength of the team.
You didn't put him in midfield as cover for De Jong, and the two half decent teams you've played, you drew with and conceded goals. Why did De Jong look so damn good last year, because you had the leagues best DM in central midfield, why is he looking worse..... because he mostly only has Barry infront of him. The defence would be stronger with Kompany covering it, and Toure was in no way weak before he was banned, Lescott hasn't looked bad towards the end of the season and not bad now, Kompany/Toure was a FAR stronger partnership, Toure was immense for you.
So Barca have to adapt, but you don't, their DM's adapted and the team played well, but your CB isn't good enough to play DM, even though he's arguably better there? Your defense has looked less good without a competant DM, its one of the most important positions on the pitch, Barry isn't close to doing the job there.
WHy would I care how Barry plays for England? He's crap for club and country, I watch the City games, Barry has been according to you, one of the best players this season, so I give you a list of the ENTIRE FREAKING TEAM, and you find ONE player he's better than. My opinion is everyone has been better than him, according to your response you NOW say ONE player is worse than him, the point was, you first said he was one of the best. Now reread the list, ignore Kompany and realise....... he's been no where near your best player..... that was the point which you managed to ignore.
Barry's job is more defensive than offensive right now, how much cover has he provided to your defence? In 4 games against 3 crap teams and one out of form team, he managed to help Bolton look competitive, he offered little to no help against Napoli and same against Fulham, he hasn't offered much going forward. Could you please explain what he has done?
THe pozman, Fulham were mocking City, hence its not the same.
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