Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [21st - 24th September 2012]
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He started going down as soon as he got near him
How did he wait for the contact? He and Evans both went for the ball, Suarez got the ball and Evans kicked his foot. By playing the ball he waited for the contact?
What are you going on about? He reported Mark Lawrenson's opinion on as conclusive proof that the correct decision was made.
What are you going on about? He reported Mark Lawrenson's opinion on as conclusive proof that the correct decision was made.
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I think it probably was a penalty (on Suarez) but the contact was pretty minimal, much like the penalty that was given later in the game. Surely a lesson learned (though a bit late) for Suarez about the importance of building rapport with referees rather than behaving like a tool.
Ah it was brilliant, Ramierz looks a stunning player, Liverpool and Spurs need to ask some serious questions about their own transfer policy of why he was deemed to be demanding too much money when he just oozes class.
Lambert was just amazing (like always) I am tempted to try and find some odds for him to be top English goal scorer as he should keep this up and completely shatter that nonsense comparison with Holt, he's much more like the Scouse RVP
Clyne really needed a big mention as he looked just as good at LB compared to RB and really played his heart out, the celebration for his goal was brilliant jumping into the crowd at the bottom of my block
I do agree it has been a little harsh on Kelvin to drop him and bring in Boruc but we really had too, he's a good keeper but in the prem his inability to catch, smother, command the box or defend his near post would give nearly every team an easy ride. Hopefully he is being lined up for a coaching role as he is a nice bloke and put in some motm performances in L1 and the champ (Leeds away being the biggest). Just no room for sentiment with starting places after the first few games, at least Gazza showed why he was worth a million for one decent performance. Boruc will probably end up 1st choice by November when he is fit and settled in.
Still grinning and laughing that villa's main song was to the tune of kumbaya which was just silly
At the time the ref decided it wasnt a penalty
so strictly speaking - the facts are it wasnt a penalty , whatever anyone else's thoughts on it, it wasnt a penalty at the time. Fact (or even Facht)
Even if the ref got the incident wrong - and it should have been a pen, the fact is it still isnt a penalty (unless you have a time machine and MH gets to make a different decision)
so what cm said is actually correct and IS fact.
From the replays its nowhere near as definitive. Johnson came in from behind, caught AV's heel and tried to wrap his leg around the opposite side, and never touched the ball. Both Evans and Scholes (in the same passage of play) connected cleanly with the ball and imo Saurez's movement was too exagerated - with the ball movement it looks unlikely to be given.
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You're as nuts as he is Frank.
He claimed that because Motd said it wasn't a penalty, it's therefore not a penalty - not that the referee didn't give it therefore it's not a penalty.
Mark Lawrenson's opinion isn't a fact.
As a neutral I thought Suarez penalty was the right decision. Evans got the ball then there was contact, right call.
Thought Valencia call was correct too, defender caught the man and no ball, colorectal decision.
Both were close and could have went either way but I think they were the right calls.
Thought Valencia call was correct too, defender caught the man and no ball, colorectal decision.
Both were close and could have went either way but I think they were the right calls.
the motd replays show he did get the ball, all be it a minimal touch. the ref also made this conclusion. they also showed that valencia was pushed. all be it minimal.
therefore, both decisions were correct and were infact good refereeing.
I didn't see any replay on motd showing Evans getting the ball. As I said, Sky zoomed in on the incident and it seemed pretty clear that both went for the ball, Suarez got there first and Evan's kicked Suarez.
edit: Just to be sure I double checked MOTD2 - they showed 1 replay (from a poor angle) of the incident in which Lawrenson says Evans got the ball. Sky on the other hand zoomed in on the challenge a showed quite clearly that Suarez is the one that got the ball.
edit: Just to be sure I double checked MOTD2 - they showed 1 replay (from a poor angle) of the incident in which Lawrenson says Evans got the ball. Sky on the other hand zoomed in on the challenge a showed quite clearly that Suarez is the one that got the ball.
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are you saying you saw the replay on motd and iyo he didn't get the ball or are you saying you haven't seen the replay they showed at all?
you're essentially working off one opinion if you haven't seen it and that's skys. the motd showed that he did get contact on the ball first, suarez didn't help himself. it could easily have been given as a pen but the ref gave the right decision imo as i also believe he got contact on the ball.
where the ref has got it wrong (imo) is evans probably should've been sent off aswell as shelvey as both feet had left the ground, he just seemed to come the worse off but you galvanised when you went to 10 men and were the better team for large periods so it's not a decision that cost you the game. what cost you the game is that you are sub par in the centre forward position.
I watched the match live, I saw Sky's analysis post game and watched motd. Motd spent 10 seconds going over every incident and didn't show any clear replays. Sky on the other hand zoomed in and showed clearly that Evans didn't get the ball.
I'm not going off anyones opinion, I'm going off what I saw. You on the other hand are going off Lawrenson's opinion when he (based on one poor replay) wrongly claimed Evans got the ball.
no. i'm going off what i saw. and what the ref saw. and what 99% of other people saw, apart from liverpool fans.
if suarez hadn't have dramatised the incident, maybe you'd have been given it? even then, you'd still have to convert it.
do you believe johnson made no contact on valencia too?
heck. i don't know why i'm still bleating on about this. you lost. united won at anfield for the first time since what? i read today it was 2007. are those the facts? move on to the next game.
if suarez hadn't have dramatised the incident, maybe you'd have been given it? even then, you'd still have to convert it.
do you believe johnson made no contact on valencia too?
heck. i don't know why i'm still bleating on about this. you lost. united won at anfield for the first time since what? i read today it was 2007. are those the facts? move on to the next game.
You speak for 99% of other people?
You didn't see Evans get the ball because he didn't. You're going off some rubbish Mark Lawrenson came out with. If you can show me a replay that clearly shows Evans getting the ball then I'll apologise. I would link Sky's post match anaylsis that shows he didn't but unfortunately due to copyright, it's been removed.
When you watch the incident live or go off most of the replays, you can't tell who got the ball but Sky cleared that up post game. As much as I dislike Sky and most of their pundits, when it comes to super slow motion replays, they're the best
You didn't see Evans get the ball because he didn't. You're going off some rubbish Mark Lawrenson came out with. If you can show me a replay that clearly shows Evans getting the ball then I'll apologise. I would link Sky's post match anaylsis that shows he didn't but unfortunately due to copyright, it's been removed.
When you watch the incident live or go off most of the replays, you can't tell who got the ball but Sky cleared that up post game. As much as I dislike Sky and most of their pundits, when it comes to super slow motion replays, they're the best
Correct, showed it from goalside of Suarez+Evans and Suarez just nicked the ball and then his toe pretty much went over Evans toe. It was a penalty but soft, less soft than the one Halsey had no qualms over giving at the other end where apparent brush on the back sends your arms flying in the air and legs opposite directions, weird no one thought that was over exaggeration.
I love your bottom line posts, you might as well go, 'bottom line is, I am cm a 30 year old who can't grasp concepts that a 10 year old could', you state the obvious that much.
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